On 17 Jun 2015 at 8:17, Willie2 via EV wrote:

> I have a battery that looks to be a direct replacement coming from
> China.  I don't want to fool with a battery that does not conform to
> the form factor of the original battery. 

"Looks to be" sounds a little discomfiting.  I hope you get what you expect.

I see a lot of questionable generic lithium batteries going at tantalizingly 
low prices on Ebay and the like, but my caution always kicks in: you don't 
always get what you pay for, but you very seldom get what you don't pay for.

> My golf carts, with 100ah LFP cells and miniBMS have been FAR too
> costly to maintain. 

Can you be a little more specific here?  What makes them so expensive?

> I've been toying with "lead replacement" batteries that protect
> themselves from over charging and over discharging.  

I've seen those advertised.  They reminded me of the Valence batteries that 
were made in marine battery form factors and designed to be charged with 
lead battery chargers (they had internal BMSes which supposedly could 
"translate" the lead charging algorithm).

Somehow I had the impression that these much cheaper and smaller batteries 
were meant to replace lead ICE motorcycle starting batteries and/or lead UPS 
batteries, so I didn't explore them any further.  THat was quite a while 
ago, though, so maybe different types are available now.

> So, several of those might work in a golf cart and not give me the
> repair/maintenance headache I have now.  

Golf cars are pretty economical and reliable with lead golf car batteries. 

> I wonder if the bike batteries also protect themselves? 

Well, they almost certainly have some kind of BMS.  However, I'd think it 
would expect the voltage and current that your stock bike charger produces. 
If you slam it with a golf car charger, its behavior might be unpredicatable 
and as pricey as these batteries can be I'd be hesitant to risk it.  For 
sure you'd void any warranty it might have.

IDavid Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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