I wish we could have all interface details so third parties could offer battery upgrades to old Leafs and other OEM cars. Now we just have to hack through vaquely documented protocols and sink more R&D to it. Eventually the packs will be available anyway. I know dozen reason for OEM not to supports us. I'm just thinking out loud here :) -Jukka 3.6.2015 17.54 "Sean Korb via EV" <[email protected]> kirjoitti:
> I've seen bulky range extenders offered for Leafs by aftermarket vendors. > This is not a Leaf range extending kit from Nissan. What would a Nissan > kit look like? Just a battery replacement? Is there a high cost for R&D > and manufacturing of this kit? > > I'm not sure I see a solution in the article. It's the beginning of an > idea... but I think it will ultimately be cheaper for Nissan to pay off the > customer and walk away. Then the aftermarket can pick up where Nissan left > off and $5k is almost half of a 20kw additional trunk pack. They don't > have the same guarantee and it doesn't add value to the car so it is > difficult to get a bank loan against the asset... but it is a solution that > Nissan does not have to add to their portfolio. > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.torquenews.com/3618/nissan-leaf-crisis-residual-value-avert-fix-problem > > Nissan Can Avert LEAF Pending Crisis If It Makes This Single Change > > By Douglas Stansfield 2015-05-28 > > > > [image > > > > > http://www.torquenews.com/sites/default/files/image-1/douglas_nissan_leaf_0.jpg > > Nissan LEAF > > ] > > > > Nissan’s recent offer to existing LEAF lease holders of $5000 to reduce > > their residual value has presented an interesting dilemma for the > > automaker. > > > > The secondary electric car market isn’t holding its value as originally > > anticipated, so Nissan’s answer was to help reduce the LEAF's residual > > value > > and move the cars from lease to own. This thereby shifts the steeper than > > normal depreciation rate from Nissan to the now LEAF owners. The question > > is > > will this solidify the secondary EV market? > > > > As an arm chair economist, I firmly believe that value is held in the > > prices > > one pays for the goods they purchase. At this point, the value of a > Nissan > > LEAF is weighed by the current market availability and the anticipated > > future availability. As with the law of diffusion of innovation, EV sales > > are in the early adopter phase of the product life cycle. Consumers that > > are > > the early adopters most likely anticipated the battery improvements that > > have been evolving so opted to lease rather than buy their first Nissan > > Leafs. This leaves them open to the next generation EV which would be > > available in the future. As anticipated, that philosophy will be holding > > true and many Nissan LEAF leases will just give back their cars at the > end > > of the lease and buy or lease a new EV. This is mostly because EVs with > 200 > > mile range are coming. > > > > So what is Nissan to do? > > Can it develop a strategy to uphold the value of the secondary market > > Nissan > > Leafs? I believe it can. The published rate for a replacement Nissan LEAF > > battery pack is $5499 as previously published. > > > > What if Nissan Retrofits 2011 LEAFs to 2016 Range? > > Well, what if Nissan developed a kit, that would be able to be installed > at > > the local dealers to retrofit 2011 to 2016 Nissan LEAFs with an add on > > battery that would push the Nissan LEAF cars on the road today up to the > > 200 > > miles range of the next version Leaf. Instead of a $5000 give back just > on > > residual value, give back $5000 worth of batteries and keep the value of > > the > > overall used car higher? > > > > There are many benefits to this. > > It would help solidify the used EV car market. > > It would help keep existing leases in the Nissan Family. > > It would drive future brand growth by word of mouth. > > It would increase publicity for the brand. > > [© torquenews.com] > > > > > > > > > > For EVLN posts use: > > http://evdl.org/evln/ > > > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3086531/Hate-parking-car-Nissan-vehicles-automatically-2020-says-CEO.html > > Nissan cars will be autonomous-drive ready by 2020 > > > > http://gas2.org/2015/05/22/zero-motorcycles-announces-price-cut/ > > $8.5k Zero e-Motorcycles Announces Price Cut > > > > > > > http://www.mercurynews.com/los-gatos/ci_28158057/los-gatos-shorts-click-it-or-ticket-campaign > > Los Gatos shorts: 'Click It or Ticket' campaign is now underway > > + > > EVLN: Polaris Will Leave HarleyD's E-mcycle In The Dust> Snooze-U-Lose > > > > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-What-if-2011-LEAFs-were-Retrofitted-to-2016-Range-tp4675979.html > > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > > Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > > > -- > Sean Korb [email protected] http://www.spkorb.org > '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller > "Computers are useless. 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