Cell phones always have a single cell as battery and work off of the ~ 3.7V 
directly via DC/DC buck converters
and charges off of a 5V USB connection.
I can't vouch for the Mi-fi.
More problematic would be the now common application of Li batteries in tools 
such as drills and saws,
in cordless personal care products; in most internet connected devices (not 
only my laptops have a
Li cell, but also any *-pads, kindle and the sorts. Even my internet modem has 
a backup battery!

I don't charge my car in the livingroom, but the attached garage is just a 
layer of sheetrock
removed from the living room... In there are a large number of CALB 180Ah 
cells...

Cor van de Water
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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 7:47 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Success!

On 1 Jun 2015 at 12:05, Michael Ross via EV wrote:

> This is complicated by the general rule not to ever, ever charge Li 
> ion cells in your residence.

Good grief, why not?  In our house we regularly charge 3 portable computers,
2 mobile phones, a mi-fi router, and a e-scooter.  Every one of them has a 
lithium ion battery.  

The computers and scooter have cell level BMSes.  I don't know about the phones 
and mi-fi, but I doubt that they have cell-level control, and their chargers 
are powerful enough to charge them in 2-3 hours.  No disasters yet!

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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