I have the impression that no matter how hard we argue here until we are blue 
in the face
(and it will edify some and give a solid background about *why* they are called 
fool cells)
it will not sway much of the  compliance car that Toyota is building (or the 
battery swap
that Tesla is doing), simply because this industry has put it into law that you 
can get
credits for providing a zero-emission long range vehicle, which is seen as 
"required" by
the lawmakers and only two variants are being offered / developed at the moment:
Hydrogen refilling (no matter how clumsy and inefficient and lacking 
infrastructure)
and battery swapping (no matter that only a single station needed to be 
demonstrated).
There you have it, as far as I know that is the reason we see what we see.
To change this, we better watch legislators more closely / lobby better and 
educate them
where we can, so we can get rid of these monstrosities and focus on things that 
work,
such as BEV and get those into mainstream with all the money available instead 
of
wasting it on pipe-dreams.

Let me know if I am besides the point...

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mr23 via EV
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

Bob, thanks for writing in about your effort and the response. It spurred me 
into action, I went there and submitted my thoughts on the Prius (I have an 
'02, and on the newest models), but more so on the FCV vs BEV debate. Perhaps 
many of us could sway them, eventually.
Thanks again,
-Chris

On 4/23/2015 5:03 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Earlier today, I  got an email from Toyota promoting their Fool Cell 
> vehicle (with no reply address).
>
> So I went to the Toyota web site and found the CONTACT link and filled 
> out an on-line email telling them to stop throwing good money after 
> bad in last years ideas (Fool cells) and to come out with a 
> competitive Toyota BEV...
>
> IN less than 3 hours, I got a response:
>
> "We are sorry to hear of your concerns with Toyota's positioning of 
> the fuel cell vehicle. We respect your opinions regarding both 
> battery-electric vehicles and the FCV, and have documented your 
> comments at our National Headquarters, where they remain available for 
> review from the appropriate departments. It is through feedback such 
> as yours we are able to monitor and improve upon the quality of our 
> products and services."
>
> If they are actively sending out a broad reach advertising campaign 
> for their FCV, then they are also obviously open to feedback!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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