On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Lawrence Rhodes via EV<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> This is a report about the program. The average daily use was 10 miles
>>> perfect for Lead EV's charged every day.
>
> Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
>> This seems to confirm the thing that I've heard for years - it's not
>> economical because they go so few miles.
>
> Actually, it appears that the vehicles *were* more reliable, and considerably
> less expensive to operate than their ICE counterparts. That despite all the
> problems with a limited production experimental vehicle.
No doubt operating costs are cheaper. It's the up front capital cost. Lots of
miles needed to spread that cost.
>
> Also, despite the enormous price quoted for the lead-acid battery (up to
> $14,000). I wonder what Ford did to come up with that expensive a battery?
>
> You can also see the "back pedaling" by Ford to get out of their EV
> commitments once the CA ZEV program was rolled back.
>
>>> From what I heard in some cases employees would simply drive the
>>> vehicle till it wouldn't go another inch and ask for a tow...
>
> That appeared in earlier trials. The employees didn't like the vehicles, and
> so went out of their way to make them fail... with everything from passive
> resistance ("forgetting" to plug it in) to outright abuse and sabotage.
>
> But this trial seems to have gone pretty well, without evidence of that sort
> of abuse. There are some oddities in the data, though. Like some stations
> that had essentially no problems, and others with massive numbers of problems
> despite very similar numbers of miles being driven.
>
> It's the most recent trial result I've seen, so maybe these vehicles were a
> lot better developed and matched to the employees likes and dislikes. They
> were built by Ford and Grumman, who have a lot of experience in getting the
> various fit and finish details right, so they wouldn't have seemed so "alien"
> to the postal workers.
>
> Nevertheless, there were lots of problems with things that had little to do
> with it being an EV.
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> -- George Matthew Adams
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> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, [email protected]
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