Now that there is a L3 CHAdeMO to Tesla EVSE coupler adaptor (see item at the bottom), Tesla EVs have access to both L3&2 public EVSE, yet no one but a Tesla (with the right options) can use Tesla EVSE.
The newswire at the bottom was written to sitr up emotions (sells more ad-space), placing some contention if a Tesla EV were to use a non-Tesla L3 public EVSE. IMO, I could understand that, 'if' there were plenty of nearby Tesla EVSE for the Tesla driver to use. But that is not always the case, and was purposely not mentioned so as to stir-the-pot (raising non-Tesla EV driver's ire). But if we look at what EVSE is available near that new L3 EVSE installation (which the writer did not do): http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=TEMPLE+TERRACE%2C+FL&fuel=ELEC&private=false&planned=false&owner=all&payment=all&radius=false&radius_miles=10 you will see there is a nearby Tesla Superstation site with 8 L3 EVSE. In this case, it seems it would be better for the Tesla driver to make an effort to not crowd access to the new L3 EVSE when they have 8 to pull from nearby. When looking at that EVSE finder map, you also find a nearby L3 CHAdeMO EVSE at a Nissan Dealership. Sadly, it seems this 'new' L3 EVSE is just another poorly planned use of tax payer money, putting public EVSE too close together. The power that be just spend money without doing their homework. There does not seem to be a SAE combo to Tesla adpator yet: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16470-SAE-J1772-DC-%28Combo%29-Connector-Adapter-for-Model-S Thread: SAE J1772 DC (Combo) Connector Adapter for Model S Next is a newswire that throws a few driver statements together in this next piece. It was written to leave the public thinking that 'new' EVSE installed, can easily plug into any EV, see: http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/faster-chargers-for-electric-car-are-heading-to-tampa-bay/2217505 Faster chargers for electric car are heading to Tampa Bay By Philip Morgan February 12, 2015 http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2015/02/hills_charger021315_14656907_8col.jpg ... "This level-three charger is fabulous,'' said Warren Cohen, who drives a Tesla electric car. "It's the right kind of charging infrastructure, in my opinion, to be installing.'' He's glad to see that his Tesla Model S can fill up at the new chargers, though Tesla has a substantial network of its own Superchargers, as the company calls its fast-charging machines. Eight are available at the Regency Square shopping center in Brandon, for example. The Tesla machines can put 175 miles of charge in Cohen's car in a half hour or provide the full capacity of 265 miles in 70 minutes. Most other electric cars have ranges between 68 and 103 miles. Tom Krumreich, vice president of the Suncoast Electric Vehicle Association, said electric cars are expected to become popular with the masses in this country once they all can do as Tesla has done and provide at least 200 miles between charges. "It's all about range anxiety,'' Krumreich said. In the meantime, he added, the fast chargers are the best answer ... [© tampabay.com] If you look at the newswire's image, it is a dual coupler level-3 (L3). And if you look at the EVSE company's page, see: http://evcharger.biz/products/signet HB100K-DUAL signet DC Quick Charger You will see it has a CHAdeMO, and a SAE-combo/css coupler. The piece did not mention that the Tesla driver would have to adapt to one of those couplers to pull power. The Tesla to CHAdeMO adaptor is now lower priced, see: http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-chademo-adapter-now-450-1000/ Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter Now Only $450 – Was $1,000 [2014/11] by Eric Loveday [image http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/chademo-tesla-750x549.jpg ] ...[© insideevs.com] What power level the L3 CHAdeMO public EVSE that Tesla driver plugs into can vary. But take a look at the following file. About 55% down, it mentions that the 50kW L3 CHAdeMO EVSE drops down to 25kW after 7 minutes: http://www.americas.fujielectric.com/sites/default/files/Fuji%20Electric%20DC%20Quick%20Charger%20Charge%20Time%20%2825kW%20vs%20%2050kW%29.pdf ... Typically charges at 25kW rate after 7 to 10 minutes ... I find that .pdf interesting. I did not know what the actual power draw was from L3 EVSE. So, a 50Kw L3 EVSE start out at a high level, but tapers off after 7 minutes to only 25kW. That page also shows how much less expensive purchasing and installing a 25kW L3 EVSE is when compared to a 50+kW L3 EVSE. The host can save money on the purchase price, the site prep, electrical requirements, thus the installation costs. This might be one of those times when a quick fillup is not what the host would want. Many 50+kW Quick L3 EVSE are quoting 30 minutes to charge to 80%SOC. When we (EV drivers) know, just like fuel cars, no one/few come in empty. So, really that charge only takes ~20min on a 50+kw L3 EVSE. That is hardly enough time to have the driver spend much money before they hit the road again. Whereas, if the L3 were 25kW, 40+min allows the driver (and passengers) to spend more money while waiting. IMO, it sounds like if I were a host wanting to encourage driver spending in my business, the less expensive 25kW L3 EVSE would be a better choice over the more expensive 50+kW L3 EVSE. complaints that quicker is better from EVS with huge high capacity packs (i.e.: Tesla EVs) are not applicable as they have Tesla Superstations to use. Next is a newswire that muddles (?muggles?) a new Tesla EVSE can charge any EV: http://www.caller.com/news/biz-buzz-021515_63783359 Biz Buzz: 02.15.15 ... [subscription required] ... Drivers of electric vehicles are now able to charge their car while getting their shopping done. La Palmera recently announced the addition of the Tesla Model S electric vehicle company's High Power Connector. This station is the first free public destination charging location in the Coastal Bend. The connector supplies twice the amperage of a 240V electrical outlet and adds 58 miles of range to the Model S in one hour. The next closest Texas charging locations are in Houston and San Antonio. The High Power Connector, similar to those installed by Tesla owners for home use, will fully charge a Model S to a range of 256 miles in five ... Will the confusion the media-outlets causes ever end? - https://transportevolved.com/2015/01/15/tesla-model-s-chademo-adapter-goes-sale-month-ask-will-use/ Tesla: Model S-to-CHAdeMO Adapter Goes On Sale This Month. We Ask Who Will Use It? January 15, 2015 By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield [images https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/CHAdeMO_Adapter_InContext_v02_1024x1024-580x387.jpeg?c9dd01 Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter is expected to go on sale this month. But who will buy it? https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Chademo_US_shot_02_1024x1024-580x326.jpg?c9dd01 Ugly but functional: the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter allows Model S owners to use CHAdeMO DC quick charge stations https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/closeup-580x314.jpg?c9dd01 Most Tesla owners will likely continue to make use of free electricity and faster charging at Superchargers https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/IMG_2591-580x435.jpg?c9dd01 How would you feel if Tesla Model S cars suddenly started monopolising CHAdeMO Chargers? ] It’s been one of Tesla’s long-promised Model S accessories, designed to make it possible for Tesla Model S owners around the world to charge their cars from the Japanese-designed CHAdeMO quick charge stations used by cars like the Nissan LEAF and Mitsubishi i-Miev. After years of waiting however, the $450 Tesla Model S to CHAdeMO adapter will be officially going on sale later this month. That’s according to Tesla’s vice president of worldwide sales and service Jerome Guillen, who told Sylvain Juteau of French-Canadian site Roulezelectrique.com (via InsideEVs) at the end of last year that the Model S to CHAdeMO adapter would officially go on sale some time in January, a fact InsideEVs claims was confirmed again at this week by Tesla at the 2015 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. Squint, and the Tesla Model S-to-CHAdeMO DC quick charge adapter looks a little like a traditional gasoline pump from a filling station. But look a little harder, and you’ll see the narrow end of the strange apparatus carries Tesla’s proprietary charge connector on one end and a CHAdeMO DC quick charge socket on the other. Given the weight of the CHAdeMO DC quick charge connector and cable, the adapter is designed to hang away from the Model S it is plugged into, raking downwards at a 45-degree angle to avoid any damage to the car’s paintwork from the heavy, usually metallic-bodied CHAdeMO plug. But while the official Tesla CHAdeMO adapter will allow Tesla Model S owners to use the same CHAdeMO DC quick charging stations that Nissan LEAF owners can use, we’re at a loss to figure out just who will spend $450 on one when Tesla now has its Superchargers within easy reach in most U.S. states. In Europe — where Tesla’s Supercharger network is a little less mature and many Model S owners find themselves relegated to three-phase, 22 kilowatt charging — the case for the CHAdeMO adapter is a little easier to make. Even then however, it’s still a tough sell, especially since European-market Tesla Model S cars use a modified variation of the Type 2 connector for charging rather than Tesla’s U.S.-market proprietary plug. With a type 2 inlet rather than a Tesla-only inlet, European Model S owners can already make use of far more non-Tesla fast chargers than their U.S. counterparts. Juteau has a potential answer to our question: Tesla owners who live off the beaten track or away from existing Supercharger provision. In the part of Quebec where Juteau lives, Tesla Superchargers are few and far between, while DC CHAdeMO quick charge stations are more common. For him and owners like him, buying the CHAdeMO adapter may help speed up charging to 50 kilowatts rather than the far slower J1772 adapter most U.S. Model S owners have to use when there's no Supercharger around. In some cases, we’ll admit the CHAdeMO adapter does make sense. However, while there are plenty of places in the U.S. with little or no Supercharger support –including large swathes of the Midwest and Great Plains — they're generally the same places where there are few or no DC CHAdeMO charging stations either. Conversely, areas where CHAdeMO DC quick charging provision exists in the U.S. tend to be areas near Supercharger provision too. And while it may be quicker sometimes to visit a CHAdeMO charging station than drive out of the way to reach an off-route Supercharger, the disparity in charging rate — 50 kilowatts versus more than 100 kilowatts — should be enough to make the case for Supercharging. Add in the cost benefits — not all CHAdeMO charging stations are free — and we think few will order the adapter. As for other plug-in owners? We predict a backlash as those who do make the decision to buy a Tesla CHAdeMO adapter make use of it in locations previously frequented by Nissan LEAF, Mitsubishi i-Miev and Kia Soul EV owners. Since Tesla battery packs are larger and will take longer to charge, it won’t be long before someone gets upset, although we think that every plug-in owner deserves equal access to charging infrastructure, regardless of vehicle type or specification. Do you agree? Do you think people will buy the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter? And if you're someone who relies on the CHAdeMO DC quick charge network, how would you feel about finding a Tesla Model S charging at it if there's a supercharger nearby? 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