Regardless of how fast carbon from decaying material goes into the
atmosphere, the real issue is the short term balance. If you have 5
acres and are burning windfall, clearly you are net zero on a yearly
basis. If fact, even if you were to cut a few trees a year from a
mature forest (where new trees are seeding and growing), I think 5 acres
would still be enough to be carbon neutral.
The rest of us probably don't meet your performance!
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Michael Ross" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 22-Dec-14 2:08:34 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Pound-foolish batteries for solar PV off-grid
I have a very good stove. After the start up phase, you would not know
I have wood heat. Particulates probably are not anything like the
pollen the trees generate while alive. I do have a bushel of ash a
year, approximately. That gets mixed safely into the ecosystem.
There is nothing fishy about the claim of carbon neutrality for burning
wood. The 5 acres behind my home is fully forested, I don't even cut
them down live. I burn deadfalls and what my neighbors have falling
down. The speed of burning versus decaying washes out completely over
time. The decay is combustion just by biological means. The cellulose
is consumed by bacteria, ultimately (even if it first passes through
some buggy digestive tract).
The prehistoric biomass that became oil and coal was not decayed or the
carbon would have already returned to the atmosphere. When a tree
decays the carbon is in the air. The humus you see is simply not yet
decayed completely.
I am not going to get any more specific about carbon neutrality of wood
burning. It is easy to find information on this (and misinformation).
I have decided which on which side I am. If I was concerned I would
not do it. My heat would be from gas, but I don't support releasing
that by using wood.
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Peri Hartman via EV
<[email protected]> wrote:
Further, where did the idea that all the decayed wood's carbon goes
into the atmosphere. If that were true in general, we wouldn't have
any fossil fuels! Much of the decayed wood turn into humus and stays
in the soil.
The only argument I could buy is is you grow trees at the same rate
you burn them, you are probably carbon neutral.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 22-Dec-14 10:00:44 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Pound-foolish batteries for solar PV off-grid
➢ A tree burned emits no more than a tree decayed on the forest
floor.
Ah, I knew they claimed that burning wood was carbon neutral, but I
could
not remember why. You just summarized it well. Though there are other
junk
from burning wood that we don’t want to breath (as noted by Mark:)
Burning wood emits *lots* of air pollution,
particularly particulate matter, but also including ...
potent carcinogens, NOx (also a greenhouse gas),
CO (*dangerous* in closed spaces), and more.
And surely some of that carbon takes years to return to the
atmosphere if
not forever and so that can help our short-term problem better by not
burning it (yet)...
Bob
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