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Bill might have found a better EV-deal using https://usedcars.truecar.com/cars/location-Denver+CO/fuel-Electric/sort-1 Bill did not state what trim his 2012 Leaf was but that year's model only came with a half-powered 3.3kW L2 on-board charger. Here is an image of his Leaf (from his facebook page) https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10857762_772334439469813_4119142648659159189_n.jpg?oh=1f391323d64761bd5fc37f431401a33d&oe=5535BCDB As far as modifying his Leaf (as one member posted), I suggest he upgrade the on-board charger to a full 6.6kW. According to the Leaf forum, Ingineer offers that. Here is an image of one https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/304394_10151254322388488_892931413_n.jpg?oh=b7f24899b6966da27df4f75d18404761&oe=55366C9D and the page mentioning it https://www.facebook.com/groups/BayLeafs/permalink/417230061667994/ Here are links to explore: http://www.leaftalk.co.uk/showthread.php/8737-Ingineer-add-3-4kW-AC-charger-upgrade-to-2011-Leaf-%286-7kW-total-charging%29 http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9552 An aftermarket kit to improve charging to 6.6kW http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11235 6.6 Kw LEAF Charger http://evdl.org/archive/index.html http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-3k-Sadow-s-proto-6kW-EVSE-charges-Leaf-in-3hrs-80-tp4656950.html EVLN: ~$3k Sadow’s proto-6kW-EVSE charges Leaf in 3hrs:80% http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Leaf_Battery_Application Leaf Spy Manual http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Capacity_Loss#Battery_Aging_Model Battery Aging Model Spreadsheet Bill stated his 2012 Leaf does have the L3 CHAdeMO port, so he can use public L3 quick charging. There is plenty of free L3 in the Denver CO area for him to take advantage of. Bill mentioned that there are plenty of ChargePoint EVSE in his area. The ChargePoint EVSE page is not that bad a tool for finding public EVSE: -it does show more than just 'their brand' of the EVSE (classified as other) -and it does allow comments to be placed on each listing. However when I compare the same region for the ChargePoint site and the plugshare.com site, plugshare shows 50% more L2 and 80% more L3 public EVSE (both sites show all EVSE by default). Also, plughsare had more up-to-date information, pictures, and the actual cost to use non-ChargePoint EVSE. Of all the plugin drivers I have talked-to that regularly use Chargepoint, say they like it to the point of not looking any further (to use any other EVSE finder tool), nor EVSE brand. IMO (as a charging-nut) I feel that is a big mistake, as while the ChargePoint site might satify most of the driver's needs most of the time, it would be wise to have the expereince in using plugshare even if it only used as a backup EVSE finder tool. Plugshare is free to use, and you only need to be a member if you want to find out about the private L1 sites, or upload pictures, etc. As I have mentioned in the past of a VA Dr. that had leased a Leaf but had never even tried out his L3 to gain that experience (he had only used his slow 3kW L2 = painful for those few times when you are in a hurry). I hope Bill can consider upgrading his on-board L2 to 6kW so it will charge faster and he can enjoy his Leaf EV more. Looking at his public EVSE environment, there is a lot of free L3&2 EVSE where he is located. But that will change once the 1yr Fed. Gov. limitation period is over (cities like to set a use-fee to show no one is geting a free ride). Of the EVSE in his area that is not free, about half charge by the hour. That is where having a full power L2 6kW on-board charge is really good to have (you charge quicker, so it costs you less for the charge). Those EVSE that charge by the amount of pwer used (pkWh) it is the same amount of money whether you have a 3kW or 6kW on-board charge, but a 6kW charge charges to 80%SOC ~twice a fast (~3hrs vs ~8hrs), and any parking fees would be less from less time parked. I also hope Bill can try out using the free L3 EVSE in his area (best to try it now while it still is free). And I hope Bill keeps us informed if he makes any additions/changes/modifications to his Leaf EV. What Bill does to his Leaf could set a presedent for others to follow, and not just for Leaf EVs :-) {brucedp.150m.com} - http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/PNAS-report-cites-study-that-EV-s-pollute-more-than-gas-cars-tp4673112p4673145.html On Sun, Dec 21, 2014, at 04:14 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: Eva and I just bought a 2012 Leaf with 16K miles on it for a little over $15k (after CO state incentives.) About the same cost as the components for doing a conversion, but you end up with a _much_ nicer car than you could ever think of building yourself. Plus, you are spared a year's work of doing the build. We were convinced that now is the time to buy by Steve and Dee West in New Zealand during our recent visit. We went to Green Eyed Motors in Boulder to buy our Leaf. They very cleverly only sell used EVs that they purchase from out of state, and never titled in Colorado. They thus qualify for the full Colorado tax credit. The liked us, so they even threw in a wall charger. (Usually ~$400.) Very knowledgeable folks that were a pleasure to buy a car from. http://www.greeneyedmotors.com What we were blown away by is the sheer number of charging stations that are now available. There are over a hundred in the Denver area alone! https://na.chargepoint.com/charge_point Most of them are free. You simply sign up for "ChargePoint" and tap the charger with your ChargePoint card. Tried it out for the first time today at Beau Jo's Pizza. Had a wonderful meal while my car charged for free. You can ask the car navigation system where the nearest charging station is, check using your phone to see whether or not it is in use, reserve it, and the nav. will lead you right to it. Once you are plugged in, the Leaf sends you messages on your smart phone, like "charge complete". You can then tell it to turn on the climate control or ask for a status update using your smart phone. A _lot_ has changed in the short time (17 years?) I have been on the EVDL. Who would have thought then that you could buy an OEM EV at a reasonable price that would have 80+ miles of real-world range, (with heat!) and that there would be a whole network of chargers to plug into? You can visit out Facebook Fan page to read about our Leaf, our NZ trip, and our EV land speed racing: https://www.facebook.com/killacycle No need to be a facebook member to look at our "fan" page. 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