No money in EVs? It's a good thing Elon Musk doesn't know that. I seem to see more Model S's around where I live than newish Mercedes.
There are none so blind.... Chris On Nov 12, 2014 3:31 AM, "brucedp via EV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > % Anyone seeing an automaker pattern here? Dejavu % > > http://gas2.org/2014/11/07/money-evs-says-mercedes-chief/ > No Money In EV’s Says Mercedes Chief > [2014/11/07] > > [image > http://gas2.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mercedes-b-class-ED-2.jpg > mercedes-b-class-ED-2 > ] > > Mercedes chief Dieter Zetsche was in Spain this week to introduce the > Mercedes Benz B Class Electric Drive. While there, he told a press > conference that the money Mercedes and other automakers are investing into > EVs won’t be returned to them anytime soon. > > According to Green Car Reports, Zetsche was quoted as saying; > > “Manufacturers will not see a return within a reasonable time on the > billions they’re investing now in electric cars. You can reasonably say > that > nobody today is making a battery-powered vehicle that’s economically viable > in its own right.” > > If the head of Mercedes Benz says there is no money in EV’s, what does that > say for the future of electric cars? How can manufacturers justify spending > billions to develop battery powered vehicles to their shareholders if, as > Zetsche says, there won’t be a significant return on that investment in a > reasonable time? > > A big part of the problem is that EV sales have been considerably lower > than > anticipated. Manufacturers will need to move a lot more electrics if they > want to recoup their investment and eventually make a profit. According to > Bloomberg News, demand for electric vehicles has been developing slower > than > expected. Buyers are deterred by high vehicle prices and fears of being > stranded along the roadside by a dead battery. > > Carlos Ghosn, CEO of Renault and Nisan, predicted his companies would sell > 1.5 million electric cars by 2016. But IHS Automotive suggests global sales > will not top 1 million cars per year until 2020, and even that will be just > 1% of the market. EV sales this year are not expected to exceed 0.3% of the > global new car market. Ghosn has since revised his prediction to 1.5 > million > EVs by 2020, which is still 50% more than the IHS Automotive prediction. > > Mercedes thought it could limit its costs by using an existing chassis and > turning to Tesla to supply the batteries and motors for the B Class > Electric. As a result, the Mercedes EV weighs almost 500 lbs more than > BMW’s > similarly sized i3, which was built from the ground-up as an electric > vehicle. The battery pack takes up a large chunk of the rear cargo area in > the Mercedes, limiting the usefulness its hatchback design and failing to > impress Consumer Reports. > > In the end, Mercedes elected to take the cheapest way out. BMW, on the > other > hand, not only offers a range extender option but also designed its car to > look different from every other car in the market. Carlos Ghosn has also > said that the Nissan LEAF is nearing profitability as the company continues > to invest in electric cars and battery technology. Those are important > differences to buyers and why industry analyst IHS predicts the BMW i3 wil > outsell the B Class 5 to 1. No wonder BMW has a sunnier view of the future > of EV’s than Mercedes does, and why the Benz CEO has such a sour outlook on > electric cars. > [© gas2.org] > ... > > http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1095285_mercedes-ceo-no-one-will-make-money-on-electric-cars-in-reasonable-time > Mercedes CEO: No One Will Make Money On Electric Cars In 'Reasonable Time' > By John Voelcker Nov 5, 2014 > ... > > http://www.carxmotor.com/2014/11/07/mercedes-benz-ceo-says-nobody-is-making-money-on-electric-cars-in/ > Mercedes-Benz CEO says nobody is making money on EVs ... > Nov 6, 2014 > ... > > http://www.benzinsider.com/2014/11/daimler-boss-says-no-one-will-make-money-on-electric-cars-yet/ > Daimler Boss Says No One Will Make Money on Electric Cars Yet > Giancarlo Perlas [2014/11/09] > ... > > http://www.insidercarnews.com/daimler-ceo-says-electric-cars-not-profitable/ > Daimler CEO Says Electric Cars Not Profitable > by Steven Symes Nov 11, 2014 > > > > > For EVLN posts use: > > http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble+template%2FNamlServlet.jtp%3Fmacro%3Dsearch_page%26node%3D413529%26query%3Devln+-re%26sort%3Ddate > > > http://www.scillytoday.com/2014/11/05/council-launches-project-to-get-islanders-driving-electric-cars/ > Project To Get Scilly.uk Islanders Driving Electric Cars > ... > http://www.visitislesofscilly.com/ > > http://descrier.co.uk/technology/non-ev-vehicles-classed-green-cars/ > Non-EV vehicles Should-Not be classed as “green cars” > > http://www.uml.edu/News/stories/2014/Electric-Car-Charging-Stations.aspx > UML's O’Mahony taps MassEVIP to bring on campus L2 EVSE w/ L3 planned > + > EVLN: Boosted Boards’ New Faster And Cheaper e-Skateboards > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Mercedes-Sez-There-s-No-Money-In-Selling-EVs-tp4672549.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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