Well, if you had Elon Musk on your side maybe he, with his resources, could
get this changed, as well as other laws around EV's

-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water
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Sent: Friday, 26 September 2014 3:21 p.m.
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] co-operation

I too have tried to get HOV stickers, but the agency providing the sticker
have made a very narrow interpretation of the California laws, where it
indicates that all qualified vehicles should get a sticker (clearly meaning:
all zero emissions vehicles) the agency has changed their interpretation and
enforcement to only give stickers to vehicles where the *manufacturer* of
the vehicle has certified that the vehicle qualifies (meets a set of rules
that they have defined).
I am doubting whether this was an attempt to kill interest in EVs in general
by making it unattractive (difficult) to qualify for HOV stickers, but it
certainly causes all pre-existing and self-converted vehicles to become
disqualified from HOV stickers, which sounds arbitrary.
Anyway, the interpretation of the agency causes this and it seems that it is
an incorrect interpretation of the law. Either a lot of pressure on this
agency or a lawsuit might be needed to change this interpretation - or
enough politicians that hear from their (EV driving) constituency and make
it explicit to the agency that they must issue stickers to *all* EVs.

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626


-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen via EV
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:06 PM
To: HARSHA GODAVARI; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] co-operation

How about getting a conversion to be recognized with the same incentives
that are provided with most new EV sales? I converted my own car, at my own
full cost, with no tax breaks or other incentives, and now can not even get
a HOV sticker in California, even though the CA DMV and state BAR have both
verified it as a pure electric vehicle and is fully exempt from any future
smog certification.

In the end, I did it for the savings in fuel costs, the silence, and it
leaves me open to do whatever performance increases I want without any
limitation (e.g. smog certification. It would be nice though to get to use
that car pool lane ;-). from what I see, most EV buyers in CA are simply
buying their way to a more convenient commute.

Regards,
Stephen

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George Tyler via EV <[email protected]>
> To: 'brucedp5' <[email protected]>, 'Electric Vehicle Discussion 
> List' <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:43:05 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: [EVDL] co-operation
>
> > In this forum we have all the skills necessary to set up a franchise
> that is in it's self  >not for profit but works to further the
development
> of a market for converted cars which  >could be a fraction of the cost
of
> the current manufacturer's cars. This would really get >things going.
>
> Could you elaborate a little on this. I am a little confused (senior 
> moment..my natural state) as to what you are saying. Thanks.
>
> regards
> hg
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