Are these the old white Thunder sky cells that failed?  Seem to remember a
picture of them leaking.   Is it possible folks charged those early cells
like they were lead and caused (or contributed to) the failures?  I have
not heard of any bad "batch" since the white cells, which was ages ago.

I have purchased several times from China from several firms and they all
went smoothly.   Domestic suppliers have been spotty.  Some good,  some
bad.  Highly recommend EVwest.

Cheers
On Sep 22, 2014 10:38 AM, "Matthew Parkhouse via EV" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I remember the Thundersky problem......
> This is exactly why I am asking the EVDlist for "real life" experiences
> bringing a small order (48 volt and 120 battery pack that came from
> China).  Sounds a bit scarey, has this happened to any of us?
> Two outfits have said they will ship to my favourite port.  What happens
> then? I assume I then hire an agent of some sort to do the paper work and
> either hand over the batteries or help organise trucking to the center of
> the US (Colorado).  Just in case, are there any folks on this List in the
> business who could put together the 48 volt pack and the 120 volt pack to
> my specs (dimensions), with whatever BMS is needed?  I would prefer to keep
> this "in country" than involving the whole world!
>
> Many thanks
>
> Matthew Parkhouse, RN
> hobomatt@ aol.com
>
>
>
> > On 22 Sep 2557 BE, at 09:34, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It's been a number of years, but I participated in a group buy from
> Thundersky. Basically, they shipped us floor sweepings; rejects, old stock,
> and junk.
> >
> > You need to understand that Chinese businesses are not bound by any of
> the legal protections and ethics of US firms. Many of them take full
> advantage of this. They can cheat you, and not worry about being sued. If
> they decide that you are a one-time customer with no likelihood for repeat
> business, look out!
> >
> > It will cost more, but if you buy from a domestic distributor, they
> *are* bound by the law. If they fail to deliver what you ordered, you have
> the right to return it for replacement or your money back. They need to
> receive the shipment, inspect it, and fight with the Chinese supplier if
> any are bad. Most likely the US distributor will have to EAT the bad ones
> (i.e. accept that only 90% of the cells they receive can actually be sold).
> >
> > Of course, US distributors can also cheat you. They can pretend to test,
> but in fact do nothing. They can make excuses, stall, or disappear without
> a trace. But at least the law is on your side; you can sue, or have them
> criminally prosecuted. There is also the option of physically visiting the
> firm yourself (or through a proxy) to judge for yourself if they are honest
> or a fly-by-night outfit.
> >
> > Caveat emptor!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James
> > --
> > Lee A. Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com/controllers.htm now includes the
> GE EV-1
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