You need a very expensive spot welder to weld lithium cells in cans without
damaging them. Bill Dube is the expert on this topic but I don't think he's
on the list anymore. There's some info on this page:
http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/pt_Batterypacks.html

The harbor freight welder is a good way to end up with a lithium fire.




On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Michael Ross via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> This all points to why packs of small cells (laptop cells is probably a
> misnomer these days) that have conductors welded to them (as with Tesla)
> are a better solution.
>
> Has anyone tried assembling a pack like:
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos?pid=5943603287809906194&oid=100767276460953028406
>
> This is the battery I bought for my Organic Transit ELF.
>
> A friend of mine who designs a lot of automation for soldering, inductive
> heating and welding said you might be able to do this with a 240VAC spot
> welder. For example:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#spot-welders/=tckvx1
>
> That battery could be welded up on a conveyor in really high volumes.  The
> connection is stainless steel to stainless steel, no need for grease and
> goo, no sanding, no loosening.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> >
> >> Depends on your current. Typically I would say in the order of
> >>> magnitude of 0.1 mOhm (milliOhm) because a 300A current will then
> >>> give 30mV drop, which produces 300A x 0.03V = 9 Watt of power loss
> >>> as heat.
> >>>
> >>
> > Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
> >
> >> At EVERY connection?  In a 120V lithium pack that 's 38 x 9 =
> >> nearly 350W of heat!
> >>
> >
> > No; Cor has it right. And, 0.1 milliohms is a *good* connection. You will
> > discover that it is damnably difficult to make a connection that good
> with
> > aluminum terminals!
> >
> >
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