On Aug 18, 2014, at 4:34 AM, Chris Tromley via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Somehow I missed this, but I must respond. Mark's post is a particularly > egregious manipulation of the truth.
Whoa! > >> On Sun, 8/17/14, Mark Abramowitz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 100+ U.S. National 'Drive Electric Week' Events >> Planned 9/15-21 >> To: "robert winfield" <[email protected]>, "Electric Vehicle >> Discussion List" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "brucedp5" <[email protected]> >> Date: Sunday, August 17, 2014, 1:26 PM >> >> I guess the new question >> on Telsa cost is how to take account of environmental costs >> since they are SEEKING AN EXEMPTION from ENVIRONMENTAL laws >> to build a factory. > > In the article I read from the LA Times, there isn't any indication > whatsoever that Tesla is seeking anything. This is all being offered by > the state to remain competitive with other states. Tesla has options. > They don't need California. California needs Tesla. I've not read the article, but I can tell you that this is being talked about. I can also tell you that if Tesla didn't see this as an issue, there would be no legislation. Yes, some other states have questionably effective environmental protection laws. They and their residents pay the price, too. > > Also, Mark seems to imply that Tesla wants to be environmentally > irresponsible. So this is a responsible thing? > Is it not obvious that would be commercial suicide for > them? They are in fact NOT seeking exemption from any actual environmental > PROTECTIONS - only the extra review process that is unique to California. This is simply not true. The process is not unique, other states have one, too, though they may be somewhat different. Secondly, while it not a certainty that additional environmental protections would be required, it is wrong to suggest they wouldn't. I cannot tell you where exactly the facility would be built, but this would free Tesla from requirements to disclose the environmental impacts of the facility. > Tesla could probably teach the reviewers quite a lot about how to build > batteries in an environmentally responsible fashion. So for clean cars, it's okay to have a dirty factory or poison neighbors? > But that extra > process slows things down in California and Tesla needs to move quickly. Slow down a multi-year project by how much? Puh-leeze. Our state environmental protection laws can be abused, but normally projects can move forward IF they don't create significant environmental impacts. Still still can even if they do. > > So California is acting to avoid the most ironic failure of public policy > in decades. California is arguably the leader in environmentalism and the > home of the most environmentally significant automaker in history. Yet > they are in danger of losing thousands of new jobs at the new gigafactory > due to their own environmental review process. So they're going to lose jobs that were never there? > If those jobs go elsewhere > and the gigafactory becomes a shining example of how to do things right, > every politician and activist that stood in the way will be directly > responsible. How so? > > Up to now I've regarded Mark as someone who is conscientious, but has a > different view from mine on how best to approach green transportation. Now > trust enters the picture. Exactly. As someone who has lauded what Tesla has done, my trust is any company that "needs" to be exempt from environmental disclosure and protection laws is being tested. > > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140818/950b4ab4/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
