Thanks, Jerry. A 200+ mile BEV Ghia certainly sounds like a fantastic car...and, had fate played out differently, that would have been the route I'd have gone.
But I went ahead and bought the Mustang the day before yesterday. Turns out it's not merely a 1964 1/2 Mustang, but that it came off the assembly line a mere nine days (seven business days) after the very first Mustang ever, on March 18, 1964. So...I expect the hybrid conversion to be challenging, and I'm expecting not much more than a tenth the all-electric miles of that hypothetical Ghia. But...well, as much fun as a BEV Ghia would unquestionably be, I'm thinking a second-week-of-production Mustang hybrid is going to be at least as much fun, if not more. And I'll still be driving the significant majority of my miles from solar power off the roof. Now, I just have to figure out how to put it all together...but I've got time for that. The car needs a bit of engine and body work, first. Not much, but enough to give me plenty of time to do lots more research. b& On Jul 31, 2014, at 10:03 AM, jerry freedomev via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Ben, > > A Ghia EV using lithium batteries and some aero, drag reduction can go 240 > miles or so on a Leaf battery pack. Pervious ones done this way used about > 100wthrs/mile on lead batteries. > > Or one of the many kitcars, at least the more aero ones. Dead ICE ones can be > had cheap and easily converted. You are on the right path as EV's cost what > they weigh. A much lighter aero car takes a much smaller battery pack, > motor, controller, etc for the same performance. > > Or 100 mile battery range and an 8kw range extender I'm doing one that only > weighs 45lbs gives unlimited range on gasoline, E-85, Methanol, etc using > hot-rodded racing go cart motors readily available for those fuels. > > Jerry Dycus > > > > > > > On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:27 AM, Ben Goren via EV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just one more time, Ben. Do you really need to keep the ICE? Especially >> with an old car like that - no computer, nothing electronic what so ever, >> think how easy and simple your configuration would be if electric only. > > I still haven't bought the car. If I'm going to do a pure BEV conversion, > this wouldn't be the car I'd do it with; instead, I'd get a Ghia or the like. > But a pure BEV car has the range problem, which is exacerbated in my case by > the spread-out nature of the Phoenix metro area plus our summer heat...a car > with a nominal 100 mile range is going to be stressful to drive somewhere 30 > miles away on a typical day like today with a 110F forecasted high. Going > somewhere 30 miles away and deciding on the fly to make a stop another 10 > miles out of the way on the way home isn't going to happen. > > The idea with the Mustang is to get something not unlike the Volt. A couple > dozen pure electric miles would cover most of my driving, and a plugin hybrid > range aggressive on the electric (presumably resulting in fuel economy > rivaling that of an econobox when in that mode) would cover everything else > except for trips -- plus it should be great for trips. And it should wind up > having all sorts of performance. > > So...if this car, yes, the ICE stays; if the ICE goes, not this car. > > b& > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 801 bytes > Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140726/fa809afe/attachment.pgp> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140731/6f797dff/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140731/90670521/attachment.pgp> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
