No, you made a straw man argument, responding to something I never said.

And this wasn't a technical discussion.

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> On Jun 26, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> The fact that you shifted from the technical discussion
> about Hydrogen Fuel Cells into a discussion about person,
> I conclude that you have no other defense 
> and thus I will leave the issue as it is - unsupported.
> 
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
> Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
> Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:51 AM
> To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Cor van de Water via EV
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I asked you to give background for your absolute statement that an
>> unproven technology is the only solution
> 
> I did not, and have never said that. I said:
> 
> "It is just not feasible to meet clean air requirements with just
> battery electrics."
> 
> And you really think I said "unproven technology"? If you want to to say
> I made an absolute statement, you ought to get it at least partially
> right.
> 
> You've signed the note as a "Chief Scientist." Is that how exacting you
> do science?
> 
> 
>> 
>> and all you offer is a hopelessly hopeful vision paper with possible
>> scenarios, that has no background as to
>> 
>> *how* they expect that the magical solution they hope to achieve can
> do
>> what they promote it to be?
>> 
>> Sorry, but the emperor still has no clothes.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It really is telling to me when Fuel Cell promoting organisations are
>> pulling out of Hydrogen Fuel Cell
>> 
>> promotion, because they have done the math and concluded that there is
>> no future in Hydrogen Fuel Cell
>> 
>> technology, since it is an energy sink, besides its obvious problems,
> it
>> is simple physics that make the
>> 
>> Hydrogen Fuel Cell completely unattractive except in a few niche
>> applications such as in space.
>> 
>> And maybe in California, as long as the money is flowing into this
>> "promising" technology...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As always - time will tell. We will be left with a few nice EV
>> conversions unless Toyota only leases it...
>> 
>> Cor van de Water
>> Chief Scientist
>> Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
>> <http://www.proxim.com> 
>> Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
>> <http://www.cvandewater.infom> 
>> Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: Mark Abramowitz [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:21 PM
>> To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Old news.  
> http://www.arb.ca.gov/planning/vision/docs/vision_for_clean_air_public_r
>> eview_draft.pdf
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 25, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Cor van de Water via EV
> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   - this is news to me. Care to elaborate?
>> 
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