To spread the spirit of EV community, two-way radios ($15 each) are a
great way to meet-greet and coordinate charging.  We are a community of
like minded folk and when we can chat at random, anytime and anyplace to
any EV driver (while driving or parked) by using the EV calling channel,
we can greatly multiply our spirit of community through communication.

We have designated FRS walkie-talkie Channel 3 Tone 5 for EV's.  You can
buy these radios at any electronics store or just borrow one from you
kids.
See http://aprs.org/EV-radio.html

This ability to communicate with any EV driver at any time (in range) can
go a long way towards erasing the fog of isolation surrounding EV charging
in non-homogeneous charging areas.  Besides, you will meet new friends.

These radios, typically have a practical range of about a mile due to
surrounding structures.  But don't forget, these radios can actually
communicate hundreds of miles if you can find mountain tops to give you
that range.  Every doubling of your height above ground doubles your
range.  When you crest a hill, for example, give out a "CQ"...

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter C. Thompson
via EV
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM's Workplace Charging Etiquette Tips ...

I work for Qualcomm at the "mothership" in San Diego, and as a result we
have several thousand people all in the same area.  Being a high-tech
company, we have a LOT of EVs.  Of course, we don't have a lot of charging
spots.  The good thing is that we also have a wiki, a mailing list, and a
lot of well-informed people to help share the charging spots.  The only
company edict we have is that we are allowed to charge wherever there is a
plug and a valid parking spot.  The rest we have come up with on our own,
similar to what Mike has.  Surprisingly, the facilities people are very
supportive - we have an email list to tell them when a circuit breaker has
tripped (too many EVs on a level 1 plug).

Bill and Dave still live on, I like to think.  :)

Cheers, Peter

On 6/18/14, 2:59 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> If I remember correctly, Mike's work is at the hp in Boise, ID. His
> description of their inter-coworker cooperation and communication
> reminds me of what hp was when I worked for them for 25 years. Its
> nice to know his site still seems to operate using Bill and Dave's
> old-school methods, whereas sites near hp Corporate in CA abandoned
> that long-ago when I worked under CEO Carley's reign.
>
> But large companies that don't have that 'on-the-same-page' attitude
> and approach, have employees that are strangers and aloof to each
> other. Those plugin drivers act like they are using public charging,
> where they do not care about the other driver.
>
> This becomes especially true the more EV charging there is at a site,
> and when there are visitors using that EVSE. At Facebook in Menlo
> Park, CA
> http://a6b6a4d850da023e34c0-ffd458871468d7801be60d93d5d79b26.r30.cf2.r
> ackcdn.com/45930.jpg there is a fair amount of charging around the
> former Sun-Microsystems/Oracle site buildings that an employee would
> likely not know the driver of the plugin vehicle next to them. This is
> going to become more common as more and more EVSE is installed at work
> and out at public locations.
>
> Here are some examples of large quantity EVSE installations:
> http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/houstons-tranquility-park-garag
> e-with-gridbot-charging-stations_100365734_l.jpg
> Houston's Tranquility Park Garage
>
> http://www.cnet.com/news/google-we-have-largest-ev-charging-network/
> Google says it will have 450 free charging stations on campus ...
>
> There are several other multiple-EVSE sites, but I think that is
> enough to make my point.
>
>
> ...
> What I found interesting about GM's newswire release to the media, was
> their late-to-the game effort to jump on the EV bandwagon. As if all
> their million$ of dollar$ to fight against plugins should be
> forgotten, and now they are the Good-Guys (?!?).
>
> Particularly the sentence stressing that all EVs (which they still
> insist the Volt plug-in-hybrid is) should be treated equally: do not
> unplug a pih because you know it can run on fuel.
>
> If a pih driver wants to use their pih in electric mode as much as
> possible, I can see that point. But how does anyone know what a pih
> driver's habits are. Clearly, a drained EV must get charging.
> [Please lets not start a flame war on who should get what]
>
> What I see is there is no established communication method between
> plugin drivers to talk to each other and see if what each driver's
> needs are. That is what I hoped GM would make happen. But all we got
> was lots of words that whitewash GM to look good, and the public to
> feel-good about their belated EV efforts.
>
>
> Perhaps there needs to be a next-gen EVSE that is smart enough to know
> who to ding the use-fee to, read the plugin's recharge-time desire,
> and adjust that fee accordingly.
>
> The EVSE owner may also want to sort out who 'needs a charge' vs who
> 'wants a charge' using those different rate fees.
>
> Perhaps the next-gen of EVs would have an EVSE interface screen on
> their infotainment system that would let them select what charge to
> get (how co$tly), and give data to the EVSE of what type of plugin it
> is, and how badly it needs a charge:
>
> -EVs wanting a higher/faster charge rate would pay more -pih with
> on-board fuel would pay more -EVs only wanting a low-n-slow and or an
> interruptible/V2G charge would pay less -etc.
>
> Something has to be done to communicate who 'needs' what, else
> charging situations can get nasty/abusive.
>
>
> {brucedp.150m.com}
>
>
>
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