According to https://www.google.com/#q=nissan+leaf+profitable news items says the Leaf EV has been profitable since the end of 2013. But remember their numbers might be including all sales, and in some parts of the world the price of the Leaf is not as low as in other areas (like in U.S. states that have regs requiring EV sales).
>From what I have lightly read in the forums, here in the SF, CA bay area, the amount of profit-taking (sales types jacking up the price) varies on where you are. Leaf prices can be especially high near affluent areas where the rich do not want to hunt for a better price. So, sales types & dealerships are making lots of profit on the Leaf EV. An EV history note: the first production Leaf to come to the SF bay area was one of those 'buy it at the lower price' dealerships, but 'live and get service elsewhere' purchases (a wise/frugal approach). The driver used the mynissanleaf.com forum to know that the SF north bay Novato dealership had the best purchase deal. Then Nissan used that as a media EVent when the owner drove their Leaf south to their SF Peninsula residence. http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/1st-Leaf-EV-being-delivered-to-Redwood-City-CA-customer-td3078469.html The i-Miev is a good EV with sound engineering behind it (sadly, it was designed for the average person, not my my type of normal-size>big+tall). A couple of iMiev EVs were tricked out to race up Pikes Peak. In fact, even in an accident at that race, the iMiev EVs did well http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=iMiev+%22Pikes+Peak%22&days=0 But you have to know there is a major reason the iMiev cost's less> their pack is smaller (meaning less range for lead foots, or faster recharging for charging nuts like me). As has been posted, actual iMiev drivers can quote their real-life iMiev range. And you can ask in one of their forums http://myimiev.com ... Which brings up a sore point for me. The EPA mileage rating missed when rating plugins because ice are not that concerned with outside weather temperatures> what is the range at cold temperatures (like during PA winters) http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evsbs.shtml#small-cars So, instead of the old-school city/highway ratings, I propose it would be better to be like: % of reduction in range in freezing temperatures / city speeds (stop-n-go)./ highway speeds (@a constant 65mph) Having that rating type of rating would be much more helpful to the newbie driver> they would know what to expect depending on where they live and drive. {brucedp.150m.com} On Fri, May 23, 2014, at 06:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > At the time I bought my Leaf, the i-miev was only slightly cheaper (once > you > factored-in quick charge and maybe something else - I can't remember). I > thought given roughly the same price that since the Leaf could carry 5 > passengers, had a bit more range, and a bit more torque, it was the > better > deal. > > Now Mitsubishi has dropped the price dramatically. It sounds very > attractive to me. > > One big question - what is the real "real world" range. I get 50-55 > miles > in winter with my 2011 Leaf. Can the mitsi beat that? - -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
