I recieved a message from AOL where-in they explained their concern for my
safety and blocking spam and they said G-Mail was following soon.  Perhaps
we should convert to the system "DYI Electric Car" uses and check in
occassionally on the conversations instead of having the torrents of
E-Mails we are accustomed to. Changing with the times, so to speak.

*Dennis Lee Miles *

*Director   **E.V.T.I. Inc.*

*E-Mail:*  *[email protected]* <[email protected]>

   *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913*

Dade City, Florida 33523

 USA




On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:02 PM, EVDL Administrator <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 1 May 2014 at 14:57, David Nelson wrote:
>
> > I have to say that Gmail has been marking an increasing number of list
> > emails as spam even though I have the address in my contact list.
>
> I hate to sound like the cynic that I am ;-), but I'm afraid that the
> spammers have very nearly destroyed email for all of us. Attempts to keep
> them out seem to be well on their way to finishing the job.
>
> There's a lesson in there, I think, but it's WAY off topic for this list,
> and probably controversial to boot.  So we'll drop that one right now. :-)
>
> Back to the topic at hand.  IMO, your options for usable email (and I don't
> mean just "usable with the EVDL") are narrowing.
>
> I think the "free" (ad-supported) services will soon be untenable.  I find
> it ironic that Yahoo and AOL are so concerned with DMARC policy when they
> host many webmail accounts held by pirates who've cracked the account
> logins.  (The EVDL's spam filters catch messages from these cracked Yahoo
> and AOL accounts almost every day.)
>
> I think that the days of widely available "free" email are probably winding
> down.  Most folks who want good email will eventually have to pay for it.
>
> At this point I'd recommend to those with a little tech savvy that rather
> than contracting with an email provider, they buy a cheap shared webhosting
> account, even if they don't expect to ever use the hosting.  I've seen
> plans
> as low as $5 a month, and there are lots of email-only services that cost
> that much.  (There are come-ons for around $2/mo, but they're usually
> limited-time promotional deals.)
>
> Most such accounts let you create large or unlimited numbers of mailboxes
> and email forwarders.  You can usually access them with a POP3 or IMAP mail
> client.  Most also provide webmail, and without the ads you get on the
> "free" services.
>
> With hosting accounts, you can usually choose whether you use spam
> filtering, and how aggressive it should be.  You can leave your mail
> unfiltered; when the address starts attracting spam, junk it, and open a
> new
> mailbox.
>
> If you have to give an address to a website and don't trust it, create a
> new
> forwarder.  If that source does spam you, or sells your address to a
> spammer
> (this happens more often than you might think), just delete the forwarder.
>
> Such a service is useful for folks who have EVDL memberships, and/or are
> members of other email discussion lists.
>
> You can have a read-only address for the list, from which you never send
> email.  Since no one but you ever sees this address, you're unlikely to get
> spam on it as long as you make it a hard-to-guess address.
>
> When you post, use a write-only address (one whose mailbox dumps right into
> the bit bucket).  This list, like most, tries to protect your posting
> address; but let's face it, if someone reads one of your posts and leaves
> it
> on his computer, and that computer gets invaded by malware, a spammer is
> apt
> to get your write-only posting address.  It won't matter to you, though,
> since you never see incoming spam on that account.
>
> The downside of using a cheap hosting accounts for email is that some hosts
> host spammers.  Now and then you'll find your IP address blacklisted.  Then
> you have to file a support request, hoping they throw the bums off and get
> the blacklist lifted for you.
>
> Ah, for the early days of the net, when it was mostly just academics and
> computer hobbyists, and you could publish your address on the then-new web
> with the  expectation that only reasonable, decent folks would use it.
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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