On Mar 25, 2016 5:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > To unsubscribe via the web interface, visit > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise > or, via email, send a message with a subject or body of 'unsubscribe' > to > [email protected] > > Send Enterprise mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Enterprise digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 32-bit vs. 64-bit (The Wanderer) > 2. Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: NPAPI "exact" support end - will ESR52 > still support NPAPI? (Sebastian Metzger) > 3. Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: NPAPI "exact" support end - will ESR52 > still support NPAPI? (Benjamin Smedberg) > 4. Re: 32-bit vs. 64-bit (Dave Ewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:45:19 -0400 > From: The Wanderer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] 32-bit vs. 64-bit > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 2016-03-24 at 06:21, Dave Ewart wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 23.03.2016 at 13:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> [...] this is because there are over 4,000 open tabs, all ordinary > >> Web pages [...] > > > > Wow. Really 4000? > > Yes - and that's after several months of working diligently to reduce > the count; the peak was, IIRC, 5,190. > > > I'm actually stunned that's manageable: how on earth do you *find* an > > existing tab in that lot?! > > By separating it out into (at current count) seven different windows, > grouped roughly by subject category, and - within each window - by > working primarily at the head and tail of the queue, i.e., the far left > and far right end of the tab list. > > I actually only have two windows whose tab count is high enough to > overflow the window width (with minimum tab width set just barely more > than wide enough for a favicon, via Classic Theme Restorer, and with > maximized windows on a 2560x1600 monitor), and those two are the ones > which I keep most stringently to their designated subject matter. > > It's still ridiculous, and I'm working on reducing the backlogs here, > but it will take me quite some time to get things down to levels which > are reasonable even by my standards. (In no small part because - with > CTR to revert most of Australis, Session Manager for the UI it provides, > and my currently-semi-private BarTab fork for the essential > tab-unloading UI - having so many tabs means it takes an hour and a > half, if not more, to shut down and restart the browser.) > > -- > The Wanderer > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all > progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 819 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > https://mail.mozilla.org/private/enterprise/attachments/20160324/3fa22744/attachment-0001.sig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:14:19 +0100 > From: Sebastian Metzger <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Re: Fwd: NPAPI "exact" support > end - will ESR52 still support NPAPI? > Message-ID: > < > 56f3e82d.0a85c20a.24dad.ffffcf13smtpin_added_miss...@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > I want to understand why this is important to you. The advantages of the > > 64-bit version are marginal unless you're running out of address space, > > which is only likely to happen to a very small subset of users who are > > running very advanced games or 3D webapps like CAD programs in their > > browser. > > We don't wanted to use ff 64bit because of performance considerations. > > In our company we have Linux and windows clients. > The used linux-distro is switching to 64bit. Because of missing 32bit > multimedia codecs and plugins the linux admins want to use 64bit ff. > > We assumed, like Heiko wrote earlier before, that 64bit ff on linux and > windows behaves the same (have NPAPI support) and therefore tried to use > 64bit windows ff as well, to minimize differences between our linux and > windows systems. > > Because of the missing NPAPI support of the 64bit windows ff we will > stay on 32-bit for now, because we have no "real" reason for switching > to 64bit. > Parallelly we will try to replace all used NPAPI plugins so we are > prepared when NPAPI support is removed from 32bit ff as well. > And maybee we can than switch to 64bit ff on windows. > > And generally, why not using 64bit software on a 64bit windows?! > Aside from the special ff case and ms office, there should be no reason > to stay on 32bit software on a 64bit os. > > Aditionally we have the middle-term goal to switch from 32bit jre to > 64bit jre and this truly because of performance improvements. > At the moment we can't "switch" (we install both) because of the many > java applets that are used and therefore we still need to install 32bit > jre, to get the 32bit jre plugin for firefox. We will also try to > replace this applets. > > The problem is to get replacements for all the java applets and all the > firefox plugins. Because we are dependent on many, many different > manufactuers. > We hope that, if NPAPI support is dropped in RR first, many "big > players" will begin to work on replacements and will be ready when NPAPI > is dropped in ESR. > > Best regards > > Sebastian Metzger > > -- > Sebastian Metzger > > Debeka Krankenversicherungsverein a. G. > Debeka Lebensversicherungsverein a. G. > Debeka Allgemeine Versicherung AG > Debeka Pensionskasse AG > Debeka Bausparkasse AG > > Abteilung Benutzer- und Endger?tedienste (IS/BE) > 56058 Koblenz > > > E-Mail: [email protected] > Internet: www.debeka.de > > Besuchen Sie uns auch in sozialen Netzwerken. > Unsere Adressen finden Sie hier: www.debeka.de/socialmedia > > Pflichtangaben der Debeka-Unternehmen > gem?? ? 35a GmbHG / ? 80 AktG: www.debeka.de/pflichtangaben > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:34:32 -0400 > From: Benjamin Smedberg <[email protected]> > To: James Pearson <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Re: Fwd: NPAPI "exact" support > end - will ESR52 still support NPAPI? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > > On 3/24/2016 7:20 AM, James Pearson wrote: > > > > The page at: > > > > > https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/10/08/npapi-plugins-in-firefox/ > > > > says "we will continue to support Flash within Firefox as an exception > to the general plugin policy" > > > > Will that still be the case with major releases after 52/ESR52 ? > > Yes. > > --BDS > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:01:17 +0000 > From: Dave Ewart <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] 32-bit vs. 64-bit > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thursday, 24.03.2016 at 08:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > On 2016-03-24 at 06:21, Dave Ewart wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, 23.03.2016 at 13:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > > > >> [...] this is because there are over 4,000 open tabs, all ordinary > > >> Web pages [...] > > > > > > Wow. Really 4000? > > > > Yes - and that's after several months of working diligently to reduce > > the count; the peak was, IIRC, 5,190. > > > > > I'm actually stunned that's manageable: how on earth do you *find* > > > an existing tab in that lot?! > > > > By separating it out into (at current count) seven different windows, > > grouped roughly by subject category, and - within each window - by > > working primarily at the head and tail of the queue, i.e., the far > > left and far right end of the tab list. > > > > I actually only have two windows whose tab count is high enough to > > overflow the window width (with minimum tab width set just barely more > > than wide enough for a favicon, via Classic Theme Restorer, and with > > maximized windows on a 2560x1600 monitor), and those two are the ones > > which I keep most stringently to their designated subject matter. > > > > It's still ridiculous, and I'm working on reducing the backlogs here, > > but it will take me quite some time to get things down to levels which > > are reasonable even by my standards. (In no small part because - with > > CTR to revert most of Australis, Session Manager for the UI it > > provides, and my currently-semi-private BarTab fork for the essential > > tab-unloading UI - having so many tabs means it takes an hour and a > > half, if not more, to shut down and restart the browser.) > > LOL! I thought 4000 tabs was ridiculous, but 90 minutes to restart the > browser ... "Good luck with that", as they say ;-) > > Dave. > > -- > Dave Ewart, [email protected] > Senior IT & Information Security Manager > Cancer Epidemiology Unit, University of Oxford > E7D2 DB06 445D 1A23 A47A E7E2 3467 0F38 356E 6ED2 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1513 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > URL: < > https://mail.mozilla.org/private/enterprise/attachments/20160324/11d9a19b/attachment-0001.sig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Enterprise mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise > > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise or send an email to > [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe" > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Enterprise Digest, Vol 57, Issue 22 > ****************************************** >
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