Hello, Thanks for the feedback, I have only seen my own environment, so good to know it works in other places too :)
Cheers, Ballock On 02/08/13 19:17, David Burke wrote: > I just got around to playing with this. These changes help is most > situations. > > unattended-upgrades was able to upgrade grub without any prompt! I > also tried hard shutting down in the middle of an upgrade - it seemed > to recover fine. So I'm going to start using it. > > pam-auth-update - I've seen it silently nuke pam.d confs :( I solved > it by ensuring pam-auth-update works when run with defaults. ie not > just hacking pam.d files. > > Thanks Ballock for the advice. > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Bolesław Tokarski > <boleslaw.tokar...@tieto.com <mailto:boleslaw.tokar...@tieto.com>> wrote: > > Hello, > > Personally, I am using unattended-upgrades. This one rarely > produces any pop-up. Can't say I solved the problem, though. > > At one point I had a problem with cloned USB sticks containing the > OS. These were the LiveCD-kind, but grub was configured to install > in the MBR using the /dev/disk/by-id/ -style ID. Of course it > turned out that every USB stick has a different ID, but not until > there was a grub update did we notice that there is a problem. As > the grub package did not know where to put the updated version, it > prompted with a question, where the default answer was to put on > every MBR. That of course included the physical hard drive, where > people were running Windows. So that was a question that had a > high chance of breaking the machine. > > I would suggest you to check the force-confold option to dpkg. You > can put it to dpkg.conf, so thus system-wide. This should dismiss > all or most of the configuration merge requests. Then, some > packages have a debconf-style question and configure the package > depending on the answers from those questions. Hopefully most can > be preseeded to hold the answer that debconf should not manage the > configuration of the package (I guess a good example is samba). > For now I still can't work around pam-auth-update, but I focused > on different things... > > Cheers, > Ballock > > > On 25/06/13 20:05, David Burke wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> I wonder how people handle this. A good number of updates show >> prompts to the user asking questions beyond their understanding. >> For example grub or lightdm. In an enterprise these >> configurations might be managed. Because these conf files are >> different, I get many more of these questions than a stock Ubuntu >> install where it's much less of a problem. >> >> My users are non technical and tend to click anything on prompts >> (including non default options). This can do damage from breaking >> authentication to just users getting worried and contacting IT >> (which adds to costs) >> >> Fully automated updates done like this >> >> <http://askubuntu.com/questions/146921/how-do-i-apt-get-y-dist-upgrade-without-a-grub-config-prompt> >> won't ask questions - but cause instability if the user powers >> down during an update. If a user is aware of the update they >> (hopefully) won't turn the computer off suddenly. >> >> Puppet mitigates some pain by ensuring configurations are changed >> back but users still get prompts that might worry them. >> >> Ideally I'd like update manager to never ask questions under any >> circumstance and always use defaults. >> >> Best, >> David Burke >> >> > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~enterprise-ubuntu > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eenterprise-ubuntu> > Post to : enterprise-ubuntu@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:enterprise-ubuntu@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~enterprise-ubuntu > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eenterprise-ubuntu> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > >
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