On Tue, 05 Aug 2025 08:45:47 +0000 dep <d...@drippingwithirony.com> said:

> Greetings!
> 
> I just got here, having installed what we used to call E on two machines in
> the last 12 hours. One is running Debian Trixie and the other Ubuntu 22.04
> (because it won't boot from USB, so that's what I'm stuck with). As I said to
> friends today, in early 1998 many of us thought that KDE would do until Gnome
> was ready; then Gnome would do until Rasterman had Enlightenment done. I've

some might say enlightenment deserves much more than a 0.27 version number...
but i'm conservative. 1.0 == i'm done and happy with it and don't plan to do
any more (i might do more but i don't PLAN to do more as i have done everything
i think e needs). e will generally be pretty stable even on git master
regardless... so - it's maturity generally is far ahead of its version number.

> been on KDE or its KDE-3.5 fork Trinity Desktop for the last 20+ years and
> thought it was time to check out Enlightenment. I am stunned at how elegant
> it is -- no surprise -- and at how well it works -- unknown until now. So,
> many thanks to Raster and everyone else. Good job!

if you installed the enlightenment from ubuntu 22 - it'll be a lot older than
the one from trixie. well unless you compile your own. :) compiling from git
master will always get the latest fixes for anything so generally if there is
an issue - true git master efl and enlightenment - the issue may have been
fixed (and it has yet to be released or your distro packages have not caught up
to releases with the fixes).

btw - try some apps like terminology, rage, ecrire, evisum, entice - they all
use efl and blend in nicely with e. :)

right now i'm spending my time rewriting/redesigning efm (the file manager bit
of e) and being careful to not rush and fully bake all the code first. you'll
find efm2 in git.enlightenment.org (search for it). it's my test repo where i
build the code to a working state before it goes into e.

> As I mentioned, alas I have an issue. I don't think it is a difficult issue,
> but it is beyond my ken 12 hours into Enlightenment: the machine running
> Debian is a 2017 GBD Pocket. The screen wants to be 1920x1200 vertical. Due

oooh the gpd pocket. yes. i had one of those... :) yes -  they used a  rotated
tablet/phone screen for that from memory so you had to then rotate the screen
back by 90/270 degrees to look normal again...

> to some wizardry way back when, it goes happily into horizontal orientation
> when X11 is started. It did the first time I started Enlightenment, too. But
> the second time, and since, it has gone all vertical on me. The fellow who
> made the applet that allows one to switch between modes remarked that it can
> be fixed in Enlightenment screen configuration. Between tiny screen elements
> and the fact that the machine's TrackPoint hasn't heard that the orientation
> has changed, finding where and how to do it has become a video game in which
> I'm stuck on Level 1. So if someone could tell me what I'm looking for and
> where to find it, I would much appreciate it.

http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-6893004bbcf470.47983979.png

top-right. 0, 90, 180, 270 :)

yes - the screen setup dialog is unpolished. it's a temporary stop-gap until i
come around to redoing the settings dialogs with a new fresh clean look and
trim them down to be easier/simpler with some fewer confusing settings.

> Thanks very much. I look forward to becoming further Enlightened -- bet you
> never heard that one before -- and will endeavor not to be a bother.

hahahaha!

> dep
> Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album
> Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/
> 
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