On Jan 22, 2025, at 6:27 PM, Peter Yee <pe...@akayla.com> wrote:
> The Bangkok meeting is a bit less than two months away. I've requested a 
> 90-minute session for the EMU WG at IETF 122. And this email is my request 
> for your agenda items to be discussed during that meeting. Please reply to me 
> with your requested topics and how long you believe you'll need for any 
> presentation and discussion.

  Much as I hate to do this, I think we need some time for TEAP.

  As I had mentioned earlier, the implementers have been working behind the 
scenes to work out interoperability questions.  The main confusion is around 
the derivations leading up to the Crypto-Binding TLV.

  It turns out that there are a few unspecified corner cases to the 
derivations.  This leads to impelmentation-specific choices, which are bad for 
interoperability.

  The question then is what do we need to do next.  If interoperability issues 
aren't serious, we can publish 7170bis and move on.  If there are differences 
between code deployed to millions of devices, that's a big problem.

  We then might need to publish 7170bis as-is, with an added note saying "oops, 
this mostly works, sort of".  And then immediately publish TEAPv2, which would 
more clearly define the cryptographic derivations.

  Alan DeKok.

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