Thanks,

Good to know that RFC 5448 (EAP-AKA’) and aka-pfs have protected result 
indicators. I missed that RFC 5448 gets this from RFC 4187.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: "jari.ar...@piuha.net" <jari.ar...@piuha.net>
Date: Monday, 8 February 2021 at 18:07
To: John Mattsson <john.matts...@ericsson.com>
Cc: EMU WG <emu@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Emu] General EAP discussion of protected alternate indication of 
success, RFC 4137, and IEEE 802.1X

John,

This may be a side note in the TLS discussion, but just looked at the below 
list:

> Looking at the other active documents in the EMU WG:
> 
> draft-ietf-emu-rfc5448bis
> draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs
> […]
> None of them has a protected alternate indication of success […]

And it seems to me that RFC 4187 (EAP-AKA) does have protected result 
indicators (see Section 12.8). RFC 5448 (EAP-AKA’) is a diff to EAP-AKA, and it 
doesn’t add or remove of any of that. RFC5448bis even has a table (Section 3.5) 
that shows when AT_RESULT_IND, AT_NOTIFICATION, AT_ENCR_DATA, etc and 
EAP-Request/Response/AKA-Notification can be used. That table matches my 
understanding of RFC 4187 result indicators usage. I also checked an open 
source implementation and it seemed to be doing these functions.

As for the PFS extension, that shouldn’t remove any of the underlying features 
either.

(But I could easily have misunderstood or forgotten something. Happy to learn 
or fix things if so.)

Jari


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