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> On Oct 29, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Eliot Lear <lear=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Max
> 
>> On 29 Oct 2020, at 18:30, Max Pala <madw...@openca.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eliot, all,
>>  
>> In our industry we solved this issue by requiring OCSP stapling if and only 
>> if the certificate being validated carries the OCSP URI in the certificate. 
> 
> Perfectly reasonable.
> 
>>  
>> This allows us to live in a mixed environment where support for OCSP might 
>> have been introduced later on and allows the CA to explicitly support OCSP 
>> for the certificate by including the URL in it.
> 
> Yep.
> 
>>  
>> If the “ecosystem” policy allows it – you might suggest that if OCSP 
>> responses are not not provided but the URL where to get OCSP responses is 
>> known to the device (or it is in the certificate), the device/entity can 
>> continue with the authentication but it should not enable any device/entity 
>> functionality before successfully executing (and validating) the OCSP 
>> protocol first (and disconnect if not reachable/invalid/revoked).
>>  
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>  
> 
> Worth more.
> 
> Eliot
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>  
>> From: Emu <emu-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Eliot Lear 
>> <lear=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> Date: Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:53 AM
>> To: Joseph Salowey <j...@salowey.net>
>> Cc: EMU WG <emu@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Emu] Consensus Call on OCSP usage in 
>> draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-11
>>  
>> Hi Joe,
>>  
>> My suggestion is that we add some discussion about what to do in the case of 
>> no connectivity to the CA.  This will be a not-uncommon occurrence, IMHO, in 
>> industrial use cases.
>>  
>> Eliot
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Oct 2020, at 17:23, Joseph Salowey <j...@salowey.net> wrote:
>>>  
>>> An issue was raised in a review of  draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-11 on the 
>>> mandatory requirement for OCSP stapling [1].  The document makes the use of 
>>> OCSP mandatory in section 5.4 [2]. Several folks have pointed out that this 
>>> may not be feasible in all deployments.  This is a quick consensus call for 
>>> this issue.   Please indicate which option below you support and why.  
>>> Please respond by November 5, 2020. 
>>> 
>>> 1. Keep the text as is with OCSP mandatory for all implementations
>>> 
>>> 2. Require Servers to Implement and Recommended to Use OCSP with text 
>>> similar to the following:
>>> 
>>> “EAP-TLS servers supporting TLS 1.3 MUST implement Certificate Status 
>>> Requests (OCSP stapling) as specified in Section 4.4.2.1 of [RFC8446].  It 
>>> is RECOMMENDED that EAP-TLS peers and servers use OCSP stapling for 
>>> verifying the status of server certificates as specified in Section 4.4.2.1 
>>> of [RFC8446]. When an EAP-TLS peer uses OCSP to verify the certificate 
>>> status of the EAP-TLS server, it MUST use Certificate Status Requests for 
>>> the server's certificate chain and it MUST treat a CertificateEntry (except 
>>> the trust anchor) without a valid CertificateStatus extension as invalid 
>>> and abort the handshake with an appropriate alert.“
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> Joe
>>>  
>>> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/0DnfUWPqvKX0_Wo8s-ZypergMHI/
>>> [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-11#section-5.4
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