On Nov 9, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Russ Housley <hous...@vigilsec.com> wrote:
> 
> With a very quick skim, it appears that you are trying to do the same thing 
> as RFC 7585.

  I think there's overlap, but it's not quite the same thing.

  Both proposals add a "known realm" as an X.509 certificate property.  They 
differ in their usage, and in who is checking the fields.  I'll quickly recap:

  RFC 7585 allows for RADIUS clients to dynamically discover RADIUS servers via 
DNS.  As a sanity check, the discovered RADIUS server should induce the "known 
realm" in its server certificate.  The RADIUS client verifies that the "known 
realm" field matches the domain it was looking for.  Note that this 
verification is done by a RADIUS client, and is independent of the 
authentication mechanism carried inside of RADIUS.  (PAP, CHAP, EAP, etc.)

  In this proposal, the supplicant is the component which is checking the 
"known realm" field.  The supplicant verifies that the NAI it's sending matches 
the "known realm" sent by the server.

  It is common practice today for server certificates to include a contact 
email address in the common name field.  However, there's no requirement that 
this is done.  No one checks the domain of that email address against the NAI 
being used by the supplicant.

  I think that this proposal may be useful.  Given that the parties who check 
this field do so for different purposes, it may be useful to have two separate 
OIDs.

  On the other hand, RCC 7585 uses the OID for TLS connections which then carry 
RADIUS packets.  This draft would use an OID for EAP-TLS authentications, which 
are carried inside of RADIUS, and then inside of UDP / TCP / TLS / DTLS.  The 
uses-cases may be different enough to warrant re-use of the same OID.

  Alan DeKok.

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