Pasi Eronen (pasi.ero...@nokia.com) writes:

...

> >   Can I instruct IANA to assign management of numbers in a newly
> > created registry to "The Daniel Harkins Trust"? No, probably not. I
> > would expect that would generate lots of protests. And justifiably
> > so. So let me ask you (as a member of the IESG), why do you think
> > it's OK to cede parts of IANA's authority to Cisco Systems,
> > Incorporated?
> 
> When a document creates a new number space, it can specify who
> administers the numbers.  IANA's authority comes from a document
> giving it the authority, not automatically.
> 
> IANA has no monopoly in this area, and for a vendor-proprietary
> protocol,"The Daniel Harkins Trust" would indeed be acceptable.
> Probably most vendor-specific RFCs don't give IANA any part of the
> space (i.e., the vendor manages all the numbers) -- this is a bit
> different since the range is partitioned, and it's possible to
> get a number without the vendor approving.
> 
> We also have a number of IETF protocols where the numbers are not
> administered by IANA. Many documents use registries maintained by ISO
> or ITU-T.  Various documents from the SMIME and PKIX WGs use numbers
> from a registry maintained by Russ Housley (as an individual
> contributor, not as IESG member) instead of IANA. RPC program numbers
> (used in e.g. NFS) are maintained by Sun Microsystems (although
> there's ongoing work to move them to IANA). Probably other examples
> exist.

Ok, so now I'm totally confused.  None of the examples you cite are IANA
registries & I would have no problem w/Cisco handing out numbers for their
proprietary protocol, but that's not what they're doing.  What they're doing
is establishing an _IANA registry_ but retaining a significant portion of
that registry under proprietary control, presumably expecting IANA to
publish numbers at their behest.  Are you saying that's OK?


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