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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Winter
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:40 AM
> To: Josh Howlett
> Cc: emu@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Emu] Review of emu-eaptunnel-req-00, chunk 1
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > This is a desirable property IMHO. It's not unusual for 
> directories to 
> > employ policies that limit the use of credentials if they 
> are about to 
> > expire. If you can't log on to the network to change your 
> credentials 
> > so that you can log onto the network, you have a 
> chicken-and-egg situation.
> >
> > {EAP-}MSCHAP allows this, of course, so perhaps it doesn't 
> need to be 
> > a property of the outer-method providing that the 
> outer-method doesn't 
> > preclude the option.
> >   
> 
> The section in question states that the (outer) tunnel method 
> SHOULD provide support for it. Your reasoning is perfectly 
> fine for MS-CHAP in the *inner* auth. The outer method is not 
> supposed to interfere with the inner method's proceeding and 
> doesn't need to provide any special support.
> 
> The property of being able to change passwords within the 
> payload of the tunnel method is already expressed in section 
> 4.5.4 when it comes to dealing with legacy password databases 
> in the inner auth (where it belongs, IMHO). I'd suggest to 
> either mention it only in there, or to make sure in 3.1 that 
> any such management operation is not the tunnel method's "business".
> 
[Joe] OK I see your point.  We can clarify the it must support the inner 
exchange that supports passwords.

> > TLS is not itself a CPU intensive protocol, although some of the 
> > cipher suites are.
> >   
> 
> Point taken. That does not make the para in the document much 
> more useful though IMHO.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Stefan
> 
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