In re-reading this charter, I still don't think we're quite there:
 
a.  Why is there still a charter item for EAP-TLS?  This work hasbeen 
completed, no? 
 
b. Attempting to extend EAP-TLS to support tunneling or channel bindings 
is not appropriate. EAP-TLS already widely deployed, with large investments 
in conformance tests.  Given the number of existing TLS-based tunneling 
protocols, such a work item would serve no useful purpose.  Let's focus on 
adding
channel binding support to tunnel methods. 
 
c. To some extent, I agree with Dan and Yoav with respect to the need for 
password-based methods.  Had such methods been availableearlier, it's 
questionable whether TLS tunneling would have takenoff to the extent that it 
has.  Also, I think that such methods, if specified
in the IETF, would be likely to be widely deployed.  However, on the other
hand I think that this is really an issue for the entire security area, not
just for EMU.  So I'd suggest that this issue be brought up in SAAG. 
 
=====================================================================Below is a 
revision to the EMU charter that is intended to reflect thediscussions in the 
Philadelphia meeting.  Please respond to the list ifyou approve of the charter 
or if you have any comments on the charter.I would like to have responses by 
4/24.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 
 
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