On 9/15/25 22:02, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Understood!
If you need only an estimate of the time rather than super accuracy you could:
Calculate the circumference of the smallest circle (3.142 x diameter)
Calculate the circumference of the largest circle (3.142 x diameter)
Average the two circumferences
Multiply the average circumference by the number of complete rotations
Divide the total of the circumstances by the feed rate.
Another potential method would be to start a counter after positioning
the electrode above the work. counting servo-threads, issuing the move,
and recording the counter when the dummy move has been completed. This
then becomes my desired time delay for this size of the hole. Slow but
should get the job done. The idea is to have a set time to detect an arc
event. When that time has elapsed w/o an arc event, its time to expand
the circle. If an arc event occurs during that spiral move, by-pass the
expansion. Not 100% feasible for a production environment, too slow, but
s/b accurate enough for a hobbyist who just wants to drill an absolutely
clean hole in steel that would bounce a good drill. The 10.3 turns
alternates lowering the tool or raising it to distribute the erosion of
the tool so most of the arcing cuts steel only .3 mm thick.
Now if Peter can tell me how long a pulse needs to be at 12 volts or
more, and the peak non-destructive voltage, when presented to
hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.input-29 for 100% recognition that an arc has
occurred, I should be off to the races. winding a teeny toroid to detect
the arc currant pulse.
That part s/b easy as I have Siglents best 4 channel 350 MHz scope. . .
That thing is amazing.
Thanks Ken.
-----Original Message-----
From: gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
Sent: September 15, 2025 8:27 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EDM auto advance Q's
On 9/15/25 11:49, ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that you need to calculate the length of an Archimedean spiral
to determine the time to move along it. This page provides a general
formula for arc length using calculus for spirals expressed in
parametric or polar form.
https://www.mathsisfun.com/calculus/arc-length.html
Unforch Ken, while the above is no doubt correct, I still have 2 problems. Not
your fault, mine, as my math education stops with simple 8th grade algebra, (I
quit school and started fixing the first 30 tube tv's in '48) is problem #1, #2
is I haven't a clue where to find those characters on my utf-8 keyboard. I have
done some work with
cateranary's(sp?) but not since the '70's to check guy wire tensions on a 1000'
Stainless tower after a legendary Nebraska blizzard left several tons of ice on
the antenna, using the rifle scope derived intercepts on the wires. Had to
make a homemade TDR to tell the tower crew where to take it apart to find the
first of the line burnup that caused. Tower was a bit crooked but straightened
as the weight went away as the ice ablated. Took around 11 days to thaw it all.
I was caught at the site for 3 days w/o any food in the fridge, when I got
plowed out I went to the drug store for my youngest's special formula and some
eats for the rest of us, and drug it all the last mile to the farmhouse we were
living in at the time, on a 2x6 throw rug slogging thru 2 to 4 foot drifts.
Obviously I was a bit younger then. Now I'll be 91 in about 2 weeks.
Thank you Ken.
-----Original Message-----
From: gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
Sent: September 15, 2025 11:37 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
<emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Emc-users] EDM auto advance Q's
Actually 3 Q's, two of which Peter may be able to answer.
1; in a 7i76D, the 12 volt inputs need a signal of what duration to
reliably detect that a signal has occurred? And what is the maximum
voltage that can be applied to a 12 volt input?
2; how can I determine the predicted elapsed time for a 10 spiral
g2/g3 move which will expand in time as the diameter of the spiral grows?
Thanks everybody.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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