Thanks again, sir :)

Phil T.
The Feral Engineer

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On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 10:38 PM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Friday 05 March 2021 21:17:12 Feral Engineer wrote:
>
> > Thanks Gene
> >
> > My emco is running a pi 4 as well. Model b, 4gb. What kind of latency
> > figures are you getting on your servo thread? I find mine to be a bit
> > finicky unless I keep wifi off
>
> About 12 u-s.  Worst I ever recorded was 200 u-s after pokig around the
> planet with firefox for about an hour. But that is not as important as
> you might think as both x and z are now 3 phase stepper servo's so they
> haven't much to worry about even with bad latency because of the rubber
> between the stepper drivers, which are in the mesa 7i90HD interface
> card.  So the servos are the coupling between the stepper driver and the
> stepper itself. The advantage is that it only uses enough amps from the
> supply to keep it running smoothly. So the steppers run zombie cool, and
> with near total silence.  Watching it run a program is a bit like
> watching Casper The Ghost, its so quiet.
>
> I acquired this lathe with a broken compound, it fell over long before I
> got it and landed on the compound crank, bending the spindle a few thou
> from the sudden stop with a bison 3 jaw chuck mounted, which I've since
> reground and it all runs true now. So now a QCTP is sitting on a couple
> pounds of cast iron. I cut from the sprue of a white truck wheel, we
> make them here in Weston, holding the TP a its normal height. It is so
> solid there's very little tool chatter either. I don't miss the compound
> since Linuxcnc IS a better compound than it ever had, doing far more
> accurate angles.
>
> > Phil T.
> > The Feral Engineer
> >
> > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
> > www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer
> >
> I've seen 3 or 4 of them. Decent stuff,
>
> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 7:56 PM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Friday 05 March 2021 18:35:19 andy pugh wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 23:31, Feral Engineer
> > >
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Can someone send me a copypasta of their spindle hal stuff? Pid,
> > > > > ff0,1,2 encoder feedback, all that?
> > > >
> > > > I don't actually run PID on my lathe spindle. I have some
> > > > moderately complex gear selection stuff going on, but otherwise I
> > > > just trust the VFD to do the job.
> > >
> > > I don't have a pid loaded in either of my machines that are running
> > > a vfd. The vfd is stiff enough it doesn't need fawncy controls.
> > >
> > > The only reason I have an encoder on the sheldon lathe is for G33.1
> > > and G76 support. Both of those slave the z travel to the spindle,
> > > what ever its running at doesn't change more than 2% under cutting
> > > load for G76, and maybe 5% for a big tap doing rigid taping. G76
> > > also slaves the x to the programmed G76 cutting depth. On the
> > > sheldon, a pwmgen feeds a spinx1 which controls the vfd. Not even an
> > > d/a except the spinx1 because I run the pwmgen at a rate thats above
> > > the bandwidth of the spinx1.
> > >
> > > You get far better results by properly tuning the vfd.  OOTB they
> > > suck huge dead toads thru soda straws. With a pwmgen getting the
> > > speed signals from motions spindle output, that pwm fed to the
> > > spinx1 along with the dir signal, and a bit of hal sequencing, my
> > > Sheldon, turning at 100 revs in high backgear, and low belt
> > > position/speed, I can do a rigid tap move, and measuring the
> > > overshoot at the bottom of the G33.1 move, is .25 turns.  That's
> > > with a nearly 40 lb 8" 4 jaw chuck mounted.  Who needs a pid?
> > >
> > > That .hal file is attached. Cherry pick with my blessing.  Sure its
> > > a rpi4 file, but its running a Sheldon lathe that after stripping
> > > the stuff linuxcnc doesn't need, and putting in decent ball screws,
> > > still weighs around 1350 lbs.
> > >
> > > Stay safe and well, John.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > --
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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