On 3/25/19 4:01 AM, Les Newell wrote:
Is this a mailing list about LinuxCNC or windows crap?!
Someone asked why there isn't a Linux version of Fusion and I explained
some of the technical reasons why.
I run "stock trading app" written in Java on Linux just fine. It's
obvious the app is mostly focused on Windows. It's very poorly
designed based on what I see in html files, config, and logs because
windows is their development platform but it still runs on Linux. I
see people complaining about windows crashes on it's chat channel many
times. Lost trade is a losing trade.
Java has a lot of overhead and is not a practical language for processor
intensive work such as 3D CAD. There are very good reasons why very few
mainstream PC applications are written in Java. As far as your stock
trading app being buggy, that is down to the software developers, not
the OS.
I did not say write CNC program in Java. It's portable language that
happens to work on different platforms just like python.
and Mac have consistent libraries. I can take a binary that was
written for Win2K and run it on Win10. Conversely I can build a
program in Win10 that will run on Win2K (within certain limits).
Linux keeps changing and binary compatibility is lousy. If I build an
application on a current
Extreme bull!
No. Fact. If you don't believe me download a copy of SheetCam TNG from
my website. The copies on the site were built a few months ago on Win10.
See, you did not read what I wrote or tried to say. "... within certain
limits ..." ahhh?
I said that I do not have a single machine, including VMs, at home
running crap. My position is based on facts, i.e. experience over years
as a solo sysadmin where I had to deal with 4 different versions of
Unix, MAN, and DOS/Windows PCs or listening to others complaining about
complete lockups after "antivirus updates" and such. Downtime = lost $$$.
They will run just fine on Win2K. Yes, I do test compatibility with
operating systems this old. Download the very old version of SheetCam
Standard I keep to support old users (built on XP if I remember
correctly) and it will still run on Win10.
OK, so if you are a software developer, I respect your trade. I assume
you are making money. Great. If you ported that program to Linux then
perhaps you could sell to different crowd and brag about it also.
I'm not in "metalwork business" but do work on hobby projects that
require me to spin up lathe or turn on a mill. Nothing professional mind
you. A CNC would help me speedup some projects I have in mind and that's
why LinuxCNC is appealing to me.
version of Linux it won't run on a distro that is even a few years
older. An app built on Ubuntu probably won't work properly on Fedora.
There are tricks to mitigate these issues but they all involve lots
of work and don't provide a reliable solution.
Unbelievable what speculations I have to read these days.
Again not speculation. I've invested hundreds of hours working on this
That's how it sounds. I used numerous programs that were originally
written on one Linux distribution that was different from my favorite
ubuntu. Takes some effort and it usually works after a bit of effort.
and testing different solutions. Can you show me any proof that I am wrong?
Les
Many discussions on mailing lists end up nowhere because it's fruitless
to argue who's right and who's not. I just don't see a point about
pushing software written for one platform only if it's on unrelated
mailing list.
--
Rafael Skodlar
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