If this is for a touch probe or something of the sort, you only need
contact when the RPM < 500?

So, have a setup that if RPM is higher than 500, then a little solenoid
that tensions the braid (not spring, as you say) is released so there is no
tension on it.
You want a copper braid around the spindle..


On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 09:01, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Saturday 16 February 2019 22:46:26 Roland Jollivet wrote:
>
> > > > Any other ideas out there? Hopefully something that doesn't
> > > > involve changing tools to use.
> >
> > I don't know what your spindle looks like, but to make an electrical
> > connection to it, you could use a piece of earth shield. The woven,
> > braid type that you find on better quality cables. These are usually
> > plated copper, or plain copper. Soft and resilient.
> >
> > Find a place anywhere on the spindle to wrap it a 1/2 turn, pinch the
> > two ends together, and pulled taut with a very light spring. I think
> > it's easier, and better than trying to use brushes.
> > Make a handful while you're at it to replace every 2 years.
>
> I've done that on the G0704 as its spindle has a reasonable speed, 3k
> tops, and I can dial up 50 rpm in either direction.
>
> This is a 24k rpm spindle, with an er11 chuck. So its exposed surface is
> around 9/16" in diameter. At full song, I expect it to burn up the
> spring where the coils touch the spinning chuck. Something along the
> lines of a dremel tool's brush would live much longer. And as it would
> have to run  on the narrow area above the wrench flats, plus the tir is
> at least half a thou, it more than likely would need some sort of a
> retractor simply because the brush is not able to track the tir and
> maintain good contact at the higher speeds. Haveing rebrushed a dremel
> or 5 over the last 65 years, you are wasting your time if you do not
> also turn the commutator to reduce its tir. All you get is excessive
> arcing because the brush is bouncing away from the worn commutator.
>
> That retraction is not a problem other than arranging to do it as the
> spindle revs increase. Where I've used a tool as the contact, I
> generally spin the tool backwards so as not to put cut marks on the work
> when doing the measurements. Retracting the brush when the revs go above
> 5k or so is something I haven't given any thought to. Its also possible
> that some sort of a weak metallic brush could be laid against the
> spindle, but what happens to it when your are spinning it backwards at
> what would be creep speeds.  Given the full song rpms, I don't see a
> long life for any direct contact solution other than the carbon brush.
>
> As soon as I get the new interface I am building up and running so that I
> have enough i/o, I'll put in home switches just so I can set sw limits
> just short of crashes, then I'll probably write me a corner of the
> workpiece finder using the new probe I installed today, making heavy use
> of g38.2, (not applicable to wood projects though, darnit). Then
> determine those x-y offsets and incorporate them into my code.  The
> natural progression then is to write a skeleton that incorporates all
> that, making the next project after this one even easier.
>
> Basicly, I'm lazy, write it once, run it as many times as I need. ;-)
>
> Cheers Roland, Gene Heskett
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