On Wednesday 04 April 2018 12:33:26 Jon Elson wrote:

> On 04/03/2018 11:50 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > Yes the faster you go the bigger the jumps.   With my 1MHz clock I
> > can only make pulses with periods that are a whole number of
> > microseconds.
> >
> > So I ask again:  What is the fastest step rate you actually use with
> > a real machine?
>
> It TOTALLY depends!  There are guys running delta 3D
> printers with NEMA 17 motors that probably go to insane
> RPMs, and thus really high step rates with microstepping
> drives.
>
> > What is needed?  Do people run motors at 100,000 steps per second?
>
> 100K (micro) steps/sec is 10K full steps/sec with a Gecko
> driver. 10K full steps/sec with a standard 1.8 degree motor
> is 50 RPS or 3000 RPM, so that is quite possible with a good
> driver and NEMA 17 motor.
>
And I have made 3300 revs on a nema 23, 45 volts into a 2m542 driver. No 
usable torque, but it ran. I don't recall the step divisor ATM but it 
was not less than a /8.

> > What I'm guessing is that it is rare to run as high as 10K steps per
> > second.    I could be wrong, so I'm wanting to hear from people who
> > are running real machines.
>
> 10K (micro) steps/second would be 5 RPM or 600 RPM, VERY
> normal speeds even with much larger motors.  If you
> direct-drive a 5 TPI screw at 600 RPM, you get 120 IPM,
> which is quite normal.

Absolutely.

> So, 10K steps/sec is NOT at all rare when using
> microstepping drives.
>
> > To say this using  MK or LinixCNC terminology what is the fastest
> > usable "base rate"?    I am using a 1 uS (or 1MHz) base rate.   Is
> > that fast enough?

IMO, no. Mesa's cards use a higher frequency, in some cases I think 50 
MHZ, (or is that only for encoder sampling) so the timing jitters even 
when its doing a semi-random step to generate an in between pulse train, 
the timeing errors are under 1%.

> With Machinekit on the Beagle Bone, the PRU can generate
> steps a lot faster than X86 software stepping, and there is
> no base thread.  I don't know the max rate you can get, but
> you can certainly get step rates well into the 10's of KHz,
> while doing other stuff, too.
>
> Jon

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