On Monday 05 March 2018 07:17:54 Charles Steinkuehler wrote:

> On 3/5/2018 4:19 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> > On 5 March 2018 at 02:20, Kurt Jacobson <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> >> I have noticed lately that several old SourceForge and
> >> Yahoo list are moving to groups.io, so I guess others are either
> >> having trouble with SF or think it is not going to be around for
> >> much longer
> >
> > It might be simpler to run mailman on a server we control.
>
> I do this for a low-traffic neighborhood list and it's somewhat of a
> pain in today's email world.  Microsoft, Yahoo, and some others use
> very strict anti-spoofing settings which break pretty much any mailing
> list if you don't mangle or wrap the original message, both of which
> have drawbacks:
>
> https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC
>
> I have also found it necessary to play with outgoing mail routing
> rules as the various MX machines I have access to (my personal server,
> my ISP's MX, and my company's MX) get added or removed from various
> blacklists, causing delivery failures to various user domains.
>
> Personally, I'd suggest Google groups, but I do still admin a Mailman
> list, so I can't recommend against it too much.  :)

google groups has been such a source of spam that I've been routing it 
to /dev/null for at least 2 years. Maybe longer.

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