On Monday 20 November 2017 00:02:31 TJoseph Powderly wrote:

> Modern workplaces and machines are not for craftsmen. They are for
> operators who get a big start  and a big stop button. Design and
> checking is outside the machine.  The idea is that the process
> designer and supervisor hands the operator blanks and gets parts. 
> This is not what the hobbyist needs but is where the industry is
> headed ( or at). It's a shame but true that numbers have replaced
> craftsmanship. Count the number of apprentices you find. I like the
> feel of turning a crank and watching the chips but I can't get paid
> for it.
>
Neither could I, the day of folks like me, writing our own gcode for a 1 
off job, seem to be long past. Its a far cry from the time in So Cal, in 
1959, when the startup I was bench teching for, bought a huge Clausing, 
wasted weeks while the factory guys scrapped ways until it could bore a 
straight hole through a 26" long piece of 8" diameter bronze rod so the 
machinist they hired could make us 2 camera cases, using quartz windows 
the navy gave us, straight enough and accurately enough to fit a 2.5" 
diameter tv camera that was destined to withstand the nearly 20,000 psi 
at the bottom of the Marianes Trench. They were on the Trieste when it 
went down there the only time the navy really used it for a deep dive.  
And those cameras had faint traces of my fingerprints on the pcb's in 
them.

But that was long ago and far away from today. 57 years later our 
technology, much improved in other fields, hasn't improved that much in 
the deep sea arena.

And anyone who says water is not compressable, should explain the 
pictures of the Trieste's battery banks those cameras took a couple pix 
of while down there, a cup + of acid had been put in weather ballons and 
snapped onto the necks of common Sears Diehard batteries, and a wire 
cage to contain the balloons from being carried away by the water 
currents. At a bit over 37,000 feet down, those ballons were stuffed 
inside the necks of the batteries. And were all still there, expanding 
back outside the batteries  when they picked it back out of the water.

Those cameras had only one problem, the rubber diaphram separating the 
sea water from the oil we filled the pan and tilt units with, was pushed 
down into the gears, grinding a hole in it, but the P&T itself continued 
to function.

> On Nov 20, 2017 09:51, "andy pugh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 20 November 2017 at 01:34, John Dammeyer <[email protected]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > So in other words, what you want already exists in several
> > > different
> >
> > ways.
> >
> > > What doesn't exist is this solution at a zero dollar cost.
> >
> > To an extent, it does.
> >
> > NGCGUI
> > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/ngcgui.html
> >
> > NativeCAM
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXCdTw6Q-QE
> >
> > Even, to an extent, my own lathe Macros.
> > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros
> >
> >
> > --
> > atp
> > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> > lunatics."
> > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916
> >
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