On Tuesday 07 March 2017 09:52:26 John Kasunich wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017, at 04:41 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >  the 1/8" bit was walking out of the collet because those TTS
> > holders aren't keyed, so they slip and limit the torque I can apply
> > when tightening the collet nut.
>
> If those are the holders I think they are, there should be two flats
> on the body. The intent is that you use two wrenches, on one the body
> flats and one on the collet nut.

Has anyone figured out what size they are? I've SAE and metric on both 
sides of a goopd fit but not the XX.5mm it looks like it would take to 
actually fit right, so its a sore point with me.  I have one only 
genuine TTS holder, wrenches fit it just fine.  A 19 (IIRC), two of them 
so far, has slipped and wedged itself firmly on the round beyond the 
flats of these Chinese holders.  Cast iron bitch to remove when they do 
that. :(  I gave up, and refuse to chew them up with a vice grip. So I 
just put some more muscle into the teeny little wrench that fits the 
drawbar bolts little square head.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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