The controls on some of those smaller injection moulders was pretty 
sophisticated even back in the day.

The shot control was the critical thing, assuming it has a proportional 
hydraulic control valve on the ram.   It was and still is very common to 
run a pressure vs position curve on the ram as it injects to fill the 
mold properly.    And at some point the control mode would be switched 
to a pressure control mode at the end of the stroke to pack the mold 
full.  A fast PLC can do it.    I suppose it could also be done with a 
LCNC and a bunch of time.   The barrel temp control usually has a number 
of zones and uses electric heater bands and a thermocouple for each 
zone.   The ram position sensor on those older machines is usually a 
Temposonics type sensor.   A lot of them had the driver hardware built 
right into the controller boards to drive the Temposonics position 
sensor.  If you are lucky there is a standalone Temposonics interface 
board that puts out 0-10VDC.  I've worked on several injection molding 
machines.

Dave



On 9/22/2015 7:15 PM, John Thornton wrote:
> I'd say the smallest touch panel you could get would be twice the price
> of a good PC...
>
> On 9/22/2015 12:25 PM, Karlsson & Wang wrote:
>>> Hi Sven.
>>> It is a small machine but in any case I suggest to you to use a plc in 
>>> stead on LCNC.
>>> I mean it is possibile to do it even with LCNC but will be much difficult.
>>> I did many injection  molding machine retrofit (the electric and Electronic 
>>> and software part) and a plc+hmi is the much confortable solution.
>>> Realtime is needed as per machine cycle control (you have to be 
>>> deterministic for a precise and reliable control).
>>> A 10ms task can be acceptable.
>>> I personally made a hw and sw package with Schneider Electric plc M258 and 
>>> hmi Magelis GTO 10"" touch screen plus a software Application that I 
>>> personally developed.
>>> But if you have time to spend and less money you cam try LCNC + MODBUS IO . 
>>> ;-)
>> I would say HMIs are quite exensive comparted to slightly outdated PC, what 
>> do you say about that?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emc-users mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> Emc-users mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog!
Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools
in one place.
SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Emc-users mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Reply via email to