On 3/6/2014 10:11 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
> Isn't most of the difference tax?
> Your mass transit systems are very good in comparison to the US.
> I can catch a bus to get me around town but the bus stop is 12 miles
> away which defeats the purpose of using a bus in the first place.
>
> If I want to catch a passenger train,  I need to drive 40 miles to catch
> a train that only goes to Chicago or Toledo (nothing goes north or
> south).  And the train comes by once a day and is oftentimes late by as
> much as 8 hours.  (seriously)  And there is no train station.   (Think
> of parking your car in a field and waiting up to 8 hours for a train
> that stops on the tracks... more than a little crazy.)
> So for me, getting around by train or bus is not viable.  A bicycle
> would be more practical.   Hence most Americans (at least in flyover
> country) get around via a car.

The USA has the 3rd largest population, behind China and India, but it's 
spread out over a much larger area than India. For the vast majority of 
the country, mass transit is pointless because there's not the 
population density to support it. Canada has about the same population 
as California, so they're far less dense than the left coast. ;)

To illustrate just a part of the largeness, the entire current human 
population of Earth could fit within the State (or Republic) of Texas 
and every individual would have more than 1,000 square feet of land. 
(That's not counting area covered by water.)

If you want to be more generous and give every person 2,000 square feet 
of land, and cover the Earth, that's around 81 billion parcels.

SciFi misses this mark constantly. Let's pack people in tight, 200 
square feet per person. Cover the planet with four levels of building, 
bottom floor for services, power generation etc, top floor and roof for 
growing food, middle two floors for lebensraum, with 50% of the space 
taken up by hallways, HVAC, plumbing, electric, public spaces etc.

The number, trillions. IIRC it comes out to over 270 trillion 200 square 
foot parcels.

Worlds like Trantor (Foundation book series), Coruscant (Star Wars), and 
Helior (Bill the Galactic Hero) are ridiculous because as depicted 
they'd have room for an astoundingly huge number of people. The Spinward 
Fringe book series has a space station with a walkable area half that of 
Earth yet people live in super tiny apartments. The TV series "The 
Event" had an alien race plotting to kill off most of the humans to make 
room to move in as they escaped a nearby star about to explode. How many 
aliens? Two billion! Could drop the lot into Alaska or Siberia or large 
chunks of China or Africa and nobody would notice - if they kept to 
themselves.

Habitable planets are large places. Really mind bogglingly large when it 
comes down to the numbers.

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