Automation Direct Sure-step 80100's.

DougM



On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

> What stepper drives are you currently using?   I have never had any
> problems with Geckos.  In general, they are very well designed.
> I have a G203V that I use as a test drive whenever I need to spin a
> stepper motor for a machine mockup and I have really mistreated the
> drive (wires crossed, jumpers falling off, overheat, etc) and it still
> works!  :-)
> I have also had good luck with the OEM series of Parker drives as well,
> but they cost a lot more than the Gecko drives and they are larger.
>
> Dave Cole
>
> On 5/29/2013 12:12 PM, doug metzler wrote:
> > No VFDs, just a standard stepper + driver.  This isn't running on a PC,
> so
> > the SBC (Rabbit) might be a bit more susceptible to noise than a PC, but
> > this is the first time I've ever seen the issue as well.  So I'm thinking
> > the driver needs to go away :-)  The Gecko will be here early next week
> and
> > I'm very interested in seeing if it cleans up using the existing 48V
> > switcher.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > DougM
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Dave<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I did a job a while back that used 2 - 20 amp, 48 volt Meanwell
> >> switchers to drive four - Gecko G540 drives.
> >> I used two PCs with Mesa cards to control the Gecko G540s and didn't
> >> have any noise issues at all.
> >> We did the customary star ground installation and I used shielded cable
> >> between the Mesa cards and the Gecko G540s.
> >> The cabinet was very tight but we tried to keep the power lines away
> >> from the low voltage circuitry.
> >> It was a custom machine with 14 positioning axes that was powered by an
> >> onboard diesel generator (mobile railroad repair equipment).
> >> I would be very concerned if you need to put caps on the step and
> >> direction lines.  That could easily degrade into an unreliable
> situation.
> >> Do you have a VFD in this machine??
> >> I have had issues with VFDs creating noise problems on step and
> >> direction lines.  To the point where I sometimes install them in a
> >> different cabinet.
> >> Some VFDs are incredibly noisy.
> >>
> >> Dave Cole
> >>
> >> On 5/29/2013 11:32 AM, doug metzler wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the advice - I did order the antek, so I can compare it to
> the
> >>> switcher side-by-side.  My main problem is actually with RF
> interference
> >>> from the stepper driver feeding back into the controller and confusing
> >>>
> >> it.
> >>
> >>> A couple of caps on the step and direction lines cleaned it up but
> >>>
> >> that's a
> >>
> >>> pretty iffy fix for a production run.
> >>>
> >>> So power ratings might not be an issue at all, but I wouldn't want to
> >>>
> >> have
> >>
> >>> a net loss in available torque.
> >>>
> >>> I suppose it would be prudent to check the amount of current it's
> drawing
> >>> currently since the prototype machine is binding up and losing steps I
> >>> could get a good indication of max current.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> DougM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Steve Blackmore<[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>   wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:35:23 +0200, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Doug
> >>>>> I would not worry about the supply if I was you. The stepper motor
> >>>>> determines at what current you are running and we mostly run at far
> >>>>>
> >> less
> >>
> >>>>> that the drive rating. The voltage will determine how fast you can go
> >>>>> but if you are happy with the max speed at 48v, you will be happy
> with
> >>>>> the Gecko drivers as is.
> >>>>> I suggest that you put the lot together and then test the system. At
> >>>>> that time you can decide if you want to change. I am willing to bet
> my
> >>>>> sandwiches that you wont notice a single difference at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> My experience lately.
> >>>>
> >>>> My stepper driven router runs on 75V, I recently decided to try a
> servo
> >>>> on Z. Unfortunately it has a 60V continuous rating so I wrapped an
> >>>> external winding around the toroid to reduce down to 60V DC output.
> >>>>
> >>>> Before, all axis would run at 5m/min - after X&Y steppers would lock
> at
> >>>> anything over 3.8m/min so the servo came back off, as did the extra
> >>>> winding and it's back to 5m/min.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve Blackmore
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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