On Friday, January 13, 2012 09:31:24 AM yann jautard did opine:

> Le 12/01/2012 23:34, gene heskett a écrit :
> > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 05:29:04 PM robert did opine:
> >> i have seen my work offset disapear also and its more todo with
> >> machine being shutdown/turned off with out it doing a full shutdown,
> >> iv not dug deep into it but it seems EMC does not close the file or
> >> something if you dont allow a shutdown it gets reset in some way.
> >> 
> >> rob
> > 
> > I haven't experienced that that I know of, but I am wondering if you
> > allow emc to do a clean shutdown before you do a graceful on the
> > computer.  I have no clue what emc might do if the shutdown was a 5
> > second hold on the power switch while it was running.  Or, heaven
> > forbid, the power strip switch was used as an end of day shutdown.
> > Perhaps a Q&A and refresher tutorial with the employee might be
> > "illuminating"?
> 
> May be, but I'm pretty sure shutdown was done in the regular way,
> exiting emc, then gnome, then power off the machine switch.
> 
> We experienced problems with our electricity provider last month and had
> several cutoffs while machine was running. No problems with emc.var
> file. Some problems to restart properly in the middle of the work, of
> course, but no problems with EMC2.
> 
Good to hear.  Actually, this is the sort of thing I've had happen 2 or 3 
times in old winderz NT-3.51 and 4.0 systems.  Suddenly a very important 
DLL with either be zero'ed out, or just plain nuked.  Makes it very 
difficult to trouble shoot, a dos boot from floppies doesn't know about 
NTFS of course, and the missing file can only be obtained from M$ by buying 
another copy (their attitude is that if _that_ file is missing, you have an 
illegal copy of NT, even after I gave them the number from the license 
papers that came with the machine) of the OS & doing a fresh install.

The fact that there was 2 or 3 million in billing data, the whole Accounts 
Receivables database, on that drive doesn't mean squat to them.  Perhaps I 
wasn't supposed to, but when we had bought a new copy, I was able to find 
the file I needed and copy it in.  System restored.

Just one of the many reasons there will never be an M$ OS on any machine of 
mine for much longer than it takes to burn a dvd of whatever linux I'm fond 
of today & install it.  And it pi$$e$ me off when they accuse me of being a 
pirate.  I've never pirated anything of microshafts, never thought it was 
worth pirating, let alone buying.

My dislike for M$ goes clear back to dos-3.1 days when because I needed a 
terminal program that supported ftp in order to download and install 
another vendors update kit, I called them for ideas & the bastards accused 
me of only wanting it for illegal purposes, "there is no legal use for 
ftp".  At that point I was so frustrated I gave them about 50 cents worth 
of my opinion on their business model.

They haven't done anything in the past 20 years that has changed my mind a 
bit.

Cheers, Gene
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