On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:46:21AM -0400, Ed Nisley wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 21:28 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > Perhaps b) is the way to go?
> 
> At the risk of appearing an ungrateful wretch, it seems the problem has
> been transformed from:
> 
> - remember to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg after each kernel update
> 
> into one or more of:
> 
> - modify / debug / maintain various system scripts
> - maintain wrappers around various grub scripts
> - maintain / remember to apply filter scripts for grub.cfg

No, not that last one. The one thing that automation does is convert
repeated pain into one initial pain, since it will remember and apply.

> - risk grub update failures due to locally modified files

Once working, automation has a lower incidence of failure than manual
edits ... until the grub guys change yet again. (And they seem to do a
lot of that.)

I'd say you seem an eminently rational "ungrateful wretch", who can now
better compare the relative attraction of a backyard outhouse, versus a
flushing loo which you have to self-maintain, 'cos the public utilities
haven't figured all the plumbing angles yet. ;-)

...

> It's now painfully obvious that the requirement for different kernel
> options on different kernels wasn't part of the *cough* Grub2 system
> architecture planning process.

Yes, when hand editing is discouraged, there is more pressure on the
developers to offer a practical alternative. (The creeping "DO NOT
EDIT!" arrogance of ubuntu is its major weakness, I think. Well, apart
from that "Network Manager" abomination.)

...

> Thanks to all for exploring some solutions that I was only dimly aware
> of...

It's been amusing to examine how it could be done. :-)
(Though I should have set up a 10.04 box, so I didn't have to guess
about all the things which have changed since 8.04.)

Erik

-- 
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and  throw  it away. You _will_ do that. The only question is whether
to plan in advance to build a throwaway, or to promise to deliver the
throwaway to customers.       - Fred Brooks, "The Mythical Man Month"

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