On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:27 +0100, Andy Pugh wrote:
> Most of the dimensions for the general geometry were +/- 0.2mm except
> for the flexural element, which was 0.2mm +/- 0.05mm dimensioned from
> a face with a stacked-up positional tolerance of about 0.4mm.
> The machinist set up his CNC mill to the centre value of each
> tolerance starting from a part edge and pressed "go". When the program
> finished the flexural element was not even there.
> 
> Who was at fault? I argued that the wider tolerances elsewhere in the
> geometry were specifically so that they could get the flexure right,
> they said "You always work to mid-tolerance, and the drawing should
> assume that"

The machinist. I used to do job shop work in my shop. The feature that
you described should be inspect-able, and the from dimension you quote
it should have measured (by whatever method is appropriate)
between .15mm and .25mm. Since it was not there, we can assume that it
would measure 0.00mm and is therefore out of tolerance.

I have heard this "middle of the tolerance" argument many times and it
is as wrong today as it ever has been. And I was on the side
(machinists) that tried to use it to our advantage!

If the stack-up of multiple tolerances actually prevent the part from
being made such that each individual tolerance limit can be observed,
then the drawing should go back to drafting with that explanation. If
you actually make the part, then it must pass inspection, even if some
features must be created near their tolerance limits to allow other
features to exist within their own tolerance limits. The "middle" of the
tolerance band is no more valid or important than any other point within
the tolerance limits.

Wow, who would have thought I was this opinionated? :)

Thanks,
Matt



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