On Jan 2, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Friday 02 January 2009, Kent A. Reed wrote:
>> Stuart and Jon:
>>
>> You got me with your talk of PDP11 memory tests and "insanely complex
>> systems with PDP-11s with hundreds of ISR addresses"...I was  
>> immediately
>> transported back to the 1970s. I still have the tactile memory of  
>> keying
>> in the bootstrap loader from the front panel, over and over and  
>> over, as
>> we debugged our laboratory control programs, and keying in our  
>> patches
>> because it was too time consuming to reassemble and link code in our
>> "high speed" punched papertape environment. I have also worked with
>> PDP8s, HP2100s, DG Novas, and even Interdata minis, but I loved the
>> PDP11 the most.
>>
>> I know some lucky folks have original PDP11 front panels. I was too
>> young to think to salvage mine when the relay racks were  
>> forklifted out
>> of the lab.
>>
>> Those were the days!

Things  were MUCH simpler then!
>
> Yeah, they were.  I once had a CBS supplied PDP-11/23 that ran the  
> networks
> (CBS) satellite system here at WDTV.  It slowly fell apart, with final
> uptimes measured in minutes and the DEC folks replaced everything  
> in it but
> the frame rail with the seriel number without effecting the  
> problem.  And
> when it was found to have crashed, it often had to be rebooted  
> several times,
> each instance of which was about a 10 minute process because it  
> actually
> compiled the pascal srcs each time it booted, this to make it easy  
> to upgrade
> the software, just download the new srcs from the sideband channel  
> on the
> satellite signal and reboot.
>
> And it was costing us money because we were airing ads for dog food  
> only sold
> in So Cal because a src switch was not performed & they refused to  
> pay us to
> carry it.  Finally Hugo, the computer guru at CBS traded me his  
> test mule
> machine for mine, which pissed off the DEC folks, but I never had  
> to call
> them again.  But that put Hugo out of business fixing other stations
> problems, so in about 3 months CBS was forced to convert their  
> whole system
> to something that ran on an industrial IBM with an artic controller  
> board,
> which actually did all the work.
>
> So no, I don't have fond memories of either the PDP-11/23, or of  
> the quality
> of DEC's service protocols.  Genuine new parts were simply not  
> used, if it
> booted in their test mule, it was good and went back to the field  
> techs.
>
>> Regards,
>> Kent

We had an 11/03 that ran for approx 10 years. It was the data acq and  
calculations for a PE-303 Atomic Absorbtion.
11/03 CPU, 4K words core, 4K words dynamic memory, 16 bit parallel  
interface which talked to a 12 bit A/D running at
about 4 KHz. It took the data, did a 2nd order curve fit to the data,  
scaled it by the dilution factors and printed out answers.
The system device was a HP-8413(?) programmable calculator which also  
served as the printer.
First entry of code was off the front panel; all 4K words of it. Then  
a loader/unloader spooled it to the tape on the HP.

I still have an 11/23 with a 40 Mb disk assorted memory and interface  
boards and a full set of Macro-11 manuals.
Anyone need an RL-02?  ;-)

Dave
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