Hi
It would be nice to have on something like this;

http://cubloc.com/product/05_02.php

(with linux of course)

or;

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2304885763.html

So the whole thing would hanng together like this;

http://controlafzar.com/products_en/controller_page.htm



Regards
Roland Jollivet


2008/11/22 Jack Coats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> For a different approach... Open source controller hardware with
> attached display.
>
> Getting a stable real time environment are why ShopBotTools and
> FlashCutCNC both use
> USB attached controllers.  This is where the sensors and motors are all
> attached.
> Control happens in the USB attached computer, typically Windows running
> some
> client software that gives a display similar to Axis.
>
> Even the open source robotic LeafProject.org does something similar,
> using a PIC
> or similar board to control wheels and sensors, and the 'main computer'
> is a Windows
> laptop, in this case running a LISP interpreter.
>
> The CarveWright.com machine does something similar but has a dedicated
> controller
> and a SD card interface for loading programs.
>
> We could consider a small 'off board controller'.  Hopefully opensource
> like the
> Seguino control computer (A AMT micro processor that has a C like
> development
> kit available for free).  This particular controller has quite a few
> both digital and analog
> controls.  This might allow running EMC2 in a non-real-time
> environment.  I would still
> like to keep it unix/Linux compatible even if someone wants to do a Mac
> or Windows
> compatible port.
>
> Historically I remember even IBM made boxes with high-speed (for the
> day) floating
> point array processors where 'array programs and data' were loaded into
> these
> I/O attached units then they processed independently, and send the data
> back when done,
> and even 'attached CPUs' that had none of their own I/O but added raw
> processor
> cycles.  Even the venerable Intel 286 and 386 chips had floating point
> co-processors that
> were basically good calcularort chips attached.
>
> I am not suggesting a g-code interpreter, but that might be OK on a
> larger unit, but possibly
> a very simplified pseudo-g-code that could be used to implement a full
> g-code in conjunction
> with the control/display computer.
>
> Another option might be to get one of the 'single board' Linux machines,
> use it to run
> EMC, and do AXIS on a 'display computer'.  This might make it easier to
> do the 'port' and still
> keep the 'real EMC2' on hardware without display (or sound).  It could
> use either USB or
> Ethernet attachment.
>
> I could even see running Axis (or equivalent) on one of the little palm
> top computers, and EMC on
> an 'attached controller box'.
>
> Yes, there is some hand waving and daydreaming in this, but one day we
> need to start thinking this way.
>
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 21 November 2008, Roberto Caminiti wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everybody,
> >> I see that the newest hardware with frequency tuning and with many
> >> advanced features not always give the best performances in terms of
> >> latency, used with an RTOS.
> >> So now I will ask you...
> >> Are there on the market a special hardware designed to be used in
> >> Real Time environment? Where?
> >> So I think that this hardware is minimal, so I need only:
> >> - VGA
> >> - one or two PCI slot (for mesa cards)
> >> - Serial ports and/or parallel ports
> >> - One or two USB
> >> - LAN
> >> And so without advanced features like bluetooth, wi-fi, HDMI, audio,
> etc...
> >>
> >
> > The observations I can make are 1. onboard video is generally a bad thing
> for
> > realtime, particularly if it shares the mainboard memory.  It doesn't
> want to
> > give access back to the cpu unless threatened.
> >
> > And 2. having a storage device, like a usb key or similar, plugged into a
> usb
> > port, also mungs the realtime stuff because of the device scans being
> > performed to see if its still there at frequent intervals.
> >
> > There may be others, one of which could be a mainboard std voltage of 3.3
> > volts rather than 5.  The 3.3 volt parport setups seem to be pretty picky
> > about who they talk to.
> >
> >
> >> Thank you!
> >> Roberto
> >>
> >>
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