Thank you Greg. A very eloquent response. ... Jack Greg Michalski wrote: > I don't normally pile one, typically I ignore the irrelevant messages. Hell, > I rarely even post unless I am fairly confident I have the answer to > someone's question. Normally I sit back, read and constantly learn from the > information shared on this mailing list - but I have had some unrealistic > expectations placed on me at work (my meat and potatoes job) recently which I > stood up against (successfully) and I want to support Stewart and Glenn as > they addressed this topic - it is an important one. > > I don't know your complete situation - but I don't need to for the basic > point, but it sounds like you had work that presented itself which you > decided to go after thinking you could "slap" together a machine to allow you > to perform the task and make some money. While that is a commendable > aspiration, with two family members who work R&D, specifically in process > automation and material handling/quality inspection disciplines, the tool to > complete the task typically goes through numerous simulations and revisions > before it even sees it's first 'trial run'. Rarely is a one-shot attempt > even taken, let alone successful unless it's the tinyest thing. Personally, > my benchtop mill has been a work in progress for close to a year now (3 years > if you count time before I spent a single penny on hardware, though medical > issues have slowed my pace significantly), granted it's a hobbyist machine, > but I do have an aspiration to turn it into a prototyping tool to allow some > of the ideas rolling around in my head to actually make it into the > marketplace and make me some profit. Money is tight and I want the best > return on my investment so planning and simulating have been mandatory to > make sure I don't purchase items that won't live up to expectations. So far > everything has worked as designed and intended, and tuning has been the only > real post implementation effort required. > > To bash a product outright on the mailing list is poor form - these messages > are archived and you in turn are leaving a trail that could hurt someone > else's livelihood. I see many posts about the products offered by the > manufacturer you're bashing and they are predominantly positive or kindly > asking for assistance to implement correctly. Maybe the item in question was > ready, maybe it wasn't, but ultimately the choice was yours to use it. If > you wanted a plug and play system, it sounds like an off the shelf CNC > machine would have been the better choice for you, but then you'd have spent > a lot more and your profit margin would have been significantly lower, if > even positive. To aspire to build a machine on a short schedule and expect > to immediately turn around and use it for a production job is admirable, and > occasionally even achievable, but the blame lies ultimately with you - > thorough planning and testing are not optional, especially with machinery as > dangerous as what the majority of the list deals with. I hope that you > didn't screw over a client - not only for your sake, but for HIS, if you > promised something based on a perceived ability rather than a proven one, > again, that was your error. I am sorry for your loss of this job, but > instead of venting and slingling mud, stop, take a deep breath, and learn > from what you've done. Keep at the machine and I am confident you will have > a reliable machine that will pay back your investment in time. And since > open source is a collaborative effort - if there really is a problem/lack of > function with the hardware you bought - work with the manufacturer to help > them resolve it - that's the real point I wanted to make. No, you won't get > paid for it, but they probably will thank you on the list for the community > to see for any real help you provide them and that is a really good feeling. > > This is only my 2 cents, and in the current economy, that certainly isn't > worth all that much.. > > To everyone else who couldn't care less - I apologize for going off topic and > addressing etiquette, it gets mentioned from time to time, but this was a > lengthy message so I apologize. Every once in a while it seems like a > reminder that friendly and positive communications are not only prefered, but > certainly more effective. > > And to round out my message on a positive note - THANK YOU TO EVERY VOLUNTEER > WHO HAS DONATED TIME AND MONEY TO THE EMC2 PROJECT AND TO EVERY MANUFACTURER > WHO HAS MADE AN EFFORT TO PRODUCE HARDWARE TO WORK WITH EMC2. YOUR HARD WORK > IS NOT UNAPPRECIATED. > > <rant off> > Greg > www.distinctperspectives.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > [snip]
------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
