Good advice.

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Ken Javor 
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On 2/14/25, 1:59 PM, "Ralph McDiarmid" <rmm.priv...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rmm.priv...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Amund,


RF ambient signals are generally narrow band signals, like television and
radio broadcast frequencies. It may be possible to identify those by
measuring the ambient, turning on the EUT, and measuring again. That is
what certified OATS (open area test sites) do routinely.


Building or buying a shielded room is a major investment in test
infrastructure. If you plan to do a LOT of radiated emission pre-compliance
testing, then the investment should pay-off, eventually. Having a decent
in-house radiated emissions test set with antennas and a decent SAC
(semi-anechoic chamber) is a major capital equipment plan but it can be cost
beneficial over a long term. (considering the time and the cost per hour at
a local EMC test company )


I recall a discussion thread not long ago on this forum addressing reflected
signals in a shielded room and the need for pyramidal RF absorbers or
ferrite tiles to minimize those reflections and the measurement uncertainty
they can cause. Again, a significant capital investment in a decent indoor
test facility which might pay off in a year or two, depending on how much of
this kind of testing you plan to do inhouse.


I have found that in almost every case, reducing CM currents on power and on
signal cables connected to the EUT improved the radiate emissions
significantly. Rarely, was the radiated emission problem the result of RF
leaks at ventilation openings or long seams on the EUT enclosure. So
perhaps an investment in an RF absorber clamp to qualitatively measure those
common-mode currents on cables would get you most of the way to a solution.
You'll still need to visit an EMC lab once or twice as you converge on a
final, compliant design.


Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: Amund Westin <am...@westin-emission.no <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>> 
Sent: February 14, 2025 3:02 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] Faraday tent


For in-house pre-EMC testing (radiated emission), ambient noise gives us 
problems.
Anyone who have experience with using faraday tents?


Best regards Amund


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