I think you have to ask the manufacturer of the capacitors about the insulation quality of the coating, and also test what happens if the insulation does break down; the result might be 'safe' but destructive.  At that point, high-voltage spikes on the AC input have to be taken into account. It looks as though changing the PCB would be a simpler solution than trying to prove that it's already OK or than adding a piece of insulating material and checking that it is still there.

On 2024-03-11 17:13, James Pawson (U3C) wrote:

Hello Group,

We are assessing a system that uses class Y1 capacitors for EMC filtering. Because of space constraints, they are laid down horizontally on the PCB.

This is causing a problem (at least in my mind) where the capacitor body is now resting on top of the AC input trace. The side of the capacitor connected to PE is the side closest to the AC mains input trace.

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One of those pieces of received wisdom that has been passed down to me is that “the body of components is not considered to be insulating” for the purposes of assessing creepage and clearance.

Common sense says “danger danger Will Robinson” and to change the PCB and/or to add some insulating material, but some technical back up would be welcome.

All the best

James

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