Hi,

I have seen that too at HP in Sacramento, CA. One antenna was in Vertical 
polarization and the other in Vertical. In my personal opinion, it is Ok for 
pre-scan, but I think it is complicated for the final scan. I think you still 
have to test each frequency and polarization one by one.

Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche

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Back around 1998 when I worked for Tandem Computers (purchased by Compaq in 
1998, then purchased by HP in 2001), I visited the HP EMC Lab in Washington 
state (I went to see their 10m chamber since we were thinking of getting a 2nd 
10m chamber, which we did).

Well they used two antennas connected to two separate receivers for their RE 
tests. Can't remember if it was horizontal and vertical OR if it was two 
frequency ranges (30-300MHz and 300-1000MHz), but it was definitely two 
antennas and two receivers.  At that time they were also experimenting with 4 
antennas but I think still 2 receivers, but don't know if that was actually 
implemented. They wrote their own custom test software to handle the multiple 
antenna / receiver combinations.  The guy who ran that HP EMC test lab was Bob 
Dockey who later went to Philips Medical, if you can find him maybe he can 
elaborate on their RE test system of the time.

A year later we (now Compaq) purchased a new 10m chamber (now we had two), so I 
was thinking about the two antenna RE test method as well.  But then in 2002 
(now HP), HP shut down two full EMC labs with three 10m chambers (all within 1 
mi area in Cupertino, CA), and laid off almost all EMC personnel, something 
about too many labs and equipment after the corporate merger.  They ended up 
taking equipment to be tested to their Roseville, CA EMC test lab, about 100 
miles north.

So I never got a chance to research and implement the 2 antenna RE test system. 
Had all the equipment,  but it was too late.

Manny Barron



On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 11:00 AM Patrick 
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Hi All -

I'm wondering if there is any academic or practical literature on the use of 
two antennas during an emissions test.  For example, research or experiments on 
the use of two DRH's above 1.0 GHz, side-by-side, one vertical, the other 
horizontal.

Have any researchers looked at this?
Are there any experimental studies?

Thank you.
-Patrick
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