On Sat, 2020-06-13 at 23:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 13 June 2020 20:53:36 andy pugh wrote:
> 
> > Is there an expectation that a uspace package would work on whatever
> > realtime system it found itself on, or would we need separate builds
> > for preempt-rt, xenomai and rtai-lxrt?
> 
> What diff would it make if you are spinning an iso?  Spin it for whatever 
> flavor runs best.
> 
> Preempt-rt, particularly with helper cards, has had little or no problems 
> getting the job done to my satisfaction on the two copies of the intel 
> D525-MW board that I own, one even doing software stepping for several 
> years, until it unscrewed a switch protected ball nut and scattered 
> balls all over.  And my bag of balls I had restuffed those nuts with a 
> decade back cannot now be found.  So that D525MW and all the motor 
> drivers that go with it is running the 6040, rather nicely but it grew 
> some mesa help in getting moved from the old hf mill.  With the mesa 
> help it can do rapids at 200 ipm.
> 
> I built a zenomai system to replace a BDI but before I could formulate an 
> opinion, a wheezy based iso appeared and thats still running on 3 of my 
> 4 machines. So I don't know a lot about zenomai.
> 
> My 4th machine is an armhf running buster with a preempt-rt kernel that 
> gets 16 u-secs latency but that dissolves to 200 u-secs while starting 
> firefox. But I don't run FF on that and cut metal. Nothing else seems to 
> bother it. Running with a 4.19.71-rt24-v7l+ #1 SMP PREEMPT RT I built, 
> getting long in the tooth now, but the rest of the install is uptodate 
> buster and the currently running LinuxCNC is the buildbots master.  All 
> have been updated in the last 2 days.


FireFox is historically slow to fire up, I could not even start it up on
armhf raspberrypi with Gnome. I tried Xfce but there is a login loop,
ended up installing LXDE which is not too bad.

> > I did try the experiment of running the current buildbot 2.8-preemtrt
> > package on an RTAI system and it chose to use POSIX non-realtime.
> >
> > I am trying to write some explanatory notes for the 2.8 release, and
> > so would like to know if what I observed is what would be expected.
> 
> So, do what you think is the best for the "normal" user. Keep in mind 
> that everything today is 64 bit, a place few of us has jumped into on 
> our work machines. I expect some teething problems we'll have to work 
> out.
> 
> But I have confidence that won't be as big a problem as our imagination 
> is telling us. :)
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett




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