On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, David Masterson <dsmaster...@gmail.com> wrote: > I still need more understanding of the Emacs packaging system. > Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in > understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like > something doesn't match up -- particularly with the Org package: > > 1. Most modern Emacs have Org pre-installed. > 2. Unfortunately, that Org is not up-to-date (24.3 has 7.9.3f). > 3. Therefore, installing the latest Org package seems natural. > 4. However, this does not uninstall the built-in Org package. > 5. Packages are not initialized until after .emacs is run. > 6. Therefore, any of the latest variables are not defined yet. > 7. Therefore, setting a hook may not do what you think. > 8. The documentation for Org suggests hooks (etc.) to set. > 9. I've run into times when org-version was still 7.9.3f. > > Do you see where I'm heading? Does anyone else run into this problem? > Or do most people ignore the Org package and install the latest from > GitHub in a more manual process (a la Bernt Hansen's paper)? Do we need > more concrete documentation on setting up the Org Package?
I learned emacs /for/ Org-mode, so keep that in mind as I'm pretty ignorant of emacs in genera. I *think* that packages for emacs are sort of a recent thing, and since I was already using git, I've never bothered to switch my setup. I find git ridiculously easy and have never had a reason to do anything else. Once ever: #+begin_src sh mkdir ~/.elisp/ cd ~/.elisp git clone [orgmode git path] org.git # I like adding the .git so I know it's a git repo cd org.git make clean && make #+end_src Then put in config: #+begin_src .emacs (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.elisp/org.git/lisp/") (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.elisp/org.git/contrib/lisp") #+end_src That's it. Anywhere between once a week and once every three months, I do: #+begin_src sh cd ~/.elisp/org.git git pull make clean && make #+end_src Is this more difficult than packages? What is the advantage of ELPA vs. this? I could see it if I had a lot of these sorts of things, but I really just use Org + ESS, so I'm not constantly updating/installing/removing emacs add-ons other than those two. John > > -- > David Masterson > >
